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lchiu7:

 

A question from a non Tesla owner. A friend of mine has a Chevy Bolt in the US and he is now able to access the Tesla Superchargers to charge it. He does need a NACS adapter and some setup in his Ford car app. He asked if people can charge non-Tesla cars in a Tesla supercharger here and I said I didn't know but would ask.

 

Full disclosure - I have a BYD Atto3 and I might use a Tesla charger if I were on a long road trip and other chargers were not available.

 

Yes you can - but not at all supercharger sites - you can see which one when you use their app.

I used their superchargers at Taihape a few months back when the Z chargers at Waiouru were all busy with a fleet of new EV buses being charged there. Was good to be able to carry on to Taihape and find the Superchargers all unused (the other chargers were all in use I suspect because of the buses at Waiouru).

There was some mucking around getting the app set up and payment details entered but once I had done that the charging was easy. I wasn't particulary worried about cost just good to get my EV 6 charged and on my way. 

They are not that much worse than some of the other networks for prices. People will say that their power plan gives them the same rates on the chargers - but those plans are almost always really expensive plans so you are spending more there to get better rates on the odd occasion when you are away from home.

richms:

 

They are not that much worse than some of the other networks for prices.

 

Looks like Tesla has dropped their supercharger prices considerably. I remember not that long ago they were closer to $1.29/kWh (for non-Tesla’s). Just checked the app now and they are $0.94/kWh which is comparable to ChargeNet’s $0.85/kWh.

boosacnoodle:

 

richms:

 

They are not that much worse than some of the other networks for prices.

 

 

Looks like Tesla has dropped their supercharger prices considerably. I remember not that long ago they were closer to $1.29/kWh (for non-Tesla’s). Just checked the app now and they are $0.94/kWh which is comparable to ChargeNet’s $0.85/kWh.

 

HarmLessSolutions:

 

Looks like Tesla has dropped their supercharger prices considerably. I remember not that long ago they were closer to $1.29/kWh (for non-Tesla’s). Just checked the app now and they are $0.94/kWh which is comparable to ChargeNet’s $0.85/kWh.

 

Negative. The member price is $0.72/kWh and the public non-Tesla price is $0.94/kWh.

There is no monthly fee payable for the casual user - I think there is an option to sign up to become a regular user and get the lower price and then you pay a monthly fee.

boosacnoodle:

 

HarmLessSolutions:

 

Looks like Tesla has dropped their supercharger prices considerably. I remember not that long ago they were closer to $1.29/kWh (for non-Tesla’s). Just checked the app now and they are $0.94/kWh which is comparable to ChargeNet’s $0.85/kWh.

 

But a monthly charge of $12.99 was mentioned earlier which cranks costs up significantly for infrequent non-Tesla users?

 

Negative. The member price is $0.72/kWh and the public non-Tesla price is $0.94/kWh.

 

Nice. I might sign up as a casual user. I have a Chargetnet account and that combined with my Genesis EV plan gives me the cheaper of what my electricity rate at home with Genesis would be versus the Chargenet rate. But as a backup, for the occasional top up when on a road trip, it would be useful to have a backup when all the other chargers are used or broken.

Fast charger speeds strike me as excessive at three times the price of domestic electric power. It's like paying $7/L for petrol.

It would be interesting to see the ROI on building and operating a public fast charger. Would have thought a fast charger facility would be orders of magnitude cheaper to build, operate and maintain than a petrol station.

Stupid question time: 
Company EV - home charger. 

I am taking the EV on a road trip over Labour Weekend. 
Will I need to take my bag 'o' cables with me to be able to charge at public charging stations, or are they like my home charger with a cable hardwired in? 

For context - I have never charged my EV anywhere but home. 

Cheers

HD

Handsomedan:

 

Stupid question time: 
Company EV - home charger. 

 

I am taking the EV on a road trip over Labour Weekend. 
Will I need to take my bag 'o' cables with me to be able to charge at public charging stations, or are they like my home charger with a cab;e hardwired in? 

 

For context - I have never charged my EV anywhere but home. 

 

Cheers

 

HD

 

Fast chargers have the cable built-in. Slow chargers are most likely to require BYO cable.

johno1234:

 

Fast charger speeds strike me as excessive at three times the price of domestic electric power. It's like paying $7/L for petrol.

 

It would be interesting to see the ROI on building and operating a public fast charger. Would have thought a fast charger facility would be orders of magnitude cheaper to build, operate and maintain than a petrol station.

 

 

 

 

 

We spent the week in Wellington last week to see WoW. Originally we were all going to go down together last Sunday but our son found out at the last minute that he had a group presentation to do at Uni on Tuesday. It was cheaper to pay for airport parking and a one-way Jetstar ticket from Auckland to Wellington for him to catch up vs. drive a second EV down, once you take public charging costs into account.

I know they have capital costs to recoup ... but they're going to be making a nice profit once that's done, for sure.

Handsomedan:

 

Stupid question time: 
Company EV - home charger. 

 

I am taking the EV on a road trip over Labour Weekend. 
Will I need to take my bag 'o' cables with me to be able to charge at public charging stations, or are they like my home charger with a cab;e hardwired in? 

 

For context - I have never charged my EV anywhere but home. 

 

Cheers

 

HD

 

That depends on where you want to charge.

Any DC fast charger will have a built in cable.

AC 22kW charging you need your own type2 cable. (Usually chargers at places like The Warehouse)
Tesla destination chargers (which are really just the same as you'd install at home if you buy a Tesla charger) will have a cable built in.
They do work with other EVs.

And if you want to charge from a standard 3-pin socket then you'll need your own granny charger.

johno1234:

 

Fast charger speeds strike me as excessive at three times the price of domestic electric power. It's like paying $7/L for petrol.

 

It would be interesting to see the ROI on building and operating a public fast charger. Would have thought a fast charger facility would be orders of magnitude cheaper to build, operate and maintain than a petrol station.

 

I recently switched us to the Genesis EVerywhere plan so we pay our home rates at the ChargeNet fast chargers.
Day rate - 25.24c +gst /kWh
Night rate (9pm-7am) - 11c +gst / kWh

OK - next stupid question - do I need to set up an account with anyone, or are they like a Gas station, where I can just pay via card at the "pump"?