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  #3069998 1-May-2023 14:42
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heavenlywild:
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The 491km range LFP - I get about 375km real world out of it in day to day driving. Real world means "driving it however I want without paying attention to range". Or to put it another way, for long trips I can almost make it from Warkworth to Taupo without stopping, but in practice it needs 5 minutes in Hamilton. Warkworth to Wellington took about 9.5 hours, which is not much slower than ICE by the time you factor in comfort breaks.

 



Do you also tow kids at the back etc or is this just you in the car?

 

 

 

Bit of both - daily commute is usually 2-3 people in it. For weekend general family stuff we're just as likely to take the MG so that Mr. 16 can drive. He has driven the Tesla, but it has more automation than I would like for a learner. Especially the brakes: regen is much stronger in the Tesla than the MG and we would prefer he learns that he needs to put his foot on the brake.

 

But the last couple of long trips I did were me alone - Palmerston North and then Wellington a couple of weeks later. Mind you, the driving may be a little more ... spirited ... with me in the car alone. It's the most fun to drive since the Impreza of my youth.





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  #3070051 1-May-2023 15:09
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The day I picked my M3rwd (LFP battery) the range ‘guessometer’ said 434km from 100% charge. After a year the guessometer says 426km for 100%.

 

I have averaged 130Wh/km so a 58kWh (usable) battery would net me 446km.

 

What I have found is, that for my driving style, the guessometer is slightly pessimistic.

 

But WLTP stands for “Woefully Less Than Predicted” doesn’t it?😁





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  #3070063 1-May-2023 15:17
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Dingbatt:

 

The day I picked my M3rwd (LFP battery) the range ‘guessometer’ said 434km from 100% charge. After a year the guessometer says 426km for 100%.

 

I have averaged 130Wh/km so a 58kWh (usable) battery would net me 446km.

 

What I have found is, that for my driving style, the guessometer is slightly pessimistic.

 

But WLTP stands for “Woefully Less Than Predicted” doesn’t it?😁

 

 

 

 

Yeah mine started at 431km and now after 14 months / 40,000km it's down to about 424km for a full charge. Muuuuch better than the Leaf.





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  #3070066 1-May-2023 15:29
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SaltyNZ:

 

Dingbatt:

 

The day I picked my M3rwd (LFP battery) the range ‘guessometer’ said 434km from 100% charge. After a year the guessometer says 426km for 100%.

 

I have averaged 130Wh/km so a 58kWh (usable) battery would net me 446km.

 

What I have found is, that for my driving style, the guessometer is slightly pessimistic.

 

But WLTP stands for “Woefully Less Than Predicted” doesn’t it?😁

 

 

 

 

Yeah mine started at 431km and now after 14 months / 40,000km it's down to about 424km for a full charge. Muuuuch better than the Leaf.

 

 


Doesn't the guessometer take into account how you drive etc? So it would be different for everyone after it learns your driving patterns? Or not?


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  #3070068 1-May-2023 15:35
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SaltyNZ:

 

Dingbatt:

 

The day I picked my M3rwd (LFP battery) the range ‘guessometer’ said 434km from 100% charge. After a year the guessometer says 426km for 100%.

 

I have averaged 130Wh/km so a 58kWh (usable) battery would net me 446km.

 

What I have found is, that for my driving style, the guessometer is slightly pessimistic.

 

But WLTP stands for “Woefully Less Than Predicted” doesn’t it?😁

 

 

 

 

Yeah mine started at 431km and now after 14 months / 40,000km it's down to about 424km for a full charge. Muuuuch better than the Leaf.

 

 

They certainly seem to have resiliant batteries - I'm not too worried about that.

 

When did the switch to LFP for NZ take place? Is yours LFP?

 

Do you remember what they quoted as WLTP range when you bought?

 

Its great that Tesla continuously update and improve things. Just makes it a bit hard to know how to compare.





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  #3070069 1-May-2023 15:36
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heavenlywild:

 

Doesn't the guessometer take into account how you drive etc? So it would be different for everyone after it learns your driving patterns? Or not?

 

 

 

 

Put it this way: the Tesla one is better than the Leaf, but if you take the GOM as your actual expected range you're going to have a bad day. The Norwegian guy got 400km out of his, driving at 90km/hr constantly on the motorway, from 100% to 1% - but he had a tow to get it back again once the battery went flat. My 370km was from 100% to 5% so in theory I probably would have gotten close to 400km had I been willing to risk it.

 

But unlike an ICE where if you push your luck someone can bring you a can of petrol, if you turtle your EV you're waiting for a tow truck.





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  #3070076 1-May-2023 15:39
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They certainly seem to have resiliant batteries - I'm not too worried about that.

 

When did the switch to LFP for NZ take place? Is yours LFP?

 

Do you remember what they quoted as WLTP range when you bought?

 

Its great that Tesla continuously update and improve things. Just makes it a bit hard to know how to compare.

 

 

 

 

They switched a few months before I ordered mine. It is the MY 2022 LFP with 491km WLTP range. The 2023 model is the same basic machine. They've just ripped out the radar and maybe the ultrasonics (though I heard they might be coming back?). Certainly nothing that will materially affect the range.





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SaltyNZ: But unlike an ICE where if you push your luck someone can bring you a can of petrol, if you turtle your EV you're waiting for a tow truck.

 

 

Unless you are in Auckland, Wellington or Christchurch where the AA can come out with one of their charging vans.

 

 

 

 


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  #3070088 1-May-2023 16:25
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Oooooh those must be new. They didn't have them the one time my wife pushed her luck with the Leaf.





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  #3070090 1-May-2023 16:27
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Been around for a few years. Wellington was 2020 I think, with others added later.

 

From the video, the vans have an onboard EVSE up to 7.2kW, and they say a 4.3kW battery - presumably they mean 4.3kWh. Depending on the precise EV, that will give about 20km range in half an hour to get you to the nearest charger.


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  #3070097 1-May-2023 16:47
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robjg63:

 

They certainly seem to have resiliant batteries - I'm not too worried about that.

 

When did the switch to LFP for NZ take place? Is yours LFP?

 

Do you remember what they quoted as WLTP range when you bought?

 

Its great that Tesla continuously update and improve things. Just makes it a bit hard to know how to compare.

 

 

The switch to LFP happened with cars delivered in Jan 2021 and beyond. Initially the LFP pack was 54kWh and was increased to 60kWh around November 2021.





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  #3080875 29-May-2023 14:21
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what's the difference between a 2022 RWD model 3 and a 2023?


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  #3080890 29-May-2023 14:54
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Batman:

 

what's the difference between a 2022 RWD model 3 and a 2023?

 

 

IFAIK depending on when in 2022 you are talking, they removed the adaptive cruise radar. Until Shanghai stops installing ultrasonic sensors in their 3/Ys, I think 22/23 Model 3s are the same (minus an included granny charger).





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Thanks for bumping this topic, I am interested in feedback from other Model 3 owners regarding any issues 'waking up' the car via the Tesla iPhone App.

 

My car is just over one month old (since delivery) and connectivity to the car from my iPhone 12 Pro Max Tesla App has been working fine up until a few days ago. 

 

I could wake the car at any time after waiting several seconds (and sometimes longer) for the app to connect to the car. However, any attempt to wake the car in the last few days has failed after the car has entered 'sleep mode'. The iPhone App is not closed and running in the background as recommended.

 

The iPhone 'key' and BT work fine with no issues, the iPhone App and car settings are all correct and confirmed several times and the app works without issues after waking the car up by approaching it and unlocking it. The iPhone App is not closed and running in the background.

 

The vehicle is located in a garage/workshop with a 5G Wi-Fi router/extender within 5 meters of the car with full signal strength and the LTE cellular signal has 3 bars when Wi-Fi is turned off. A speed test on the roaming AU cellular connection reported 12.53 Mbps up and 5.84 Mbps down to Brisbane last night so there is no obvious fault with that network.

 

The vehicle is parked 'at home', locked, fully charged with the mobile charger connected, without sentry mode running when it enters 'sleep' - Its location also disappears from the iPhone map.

 

The car OS has been rebooted twice, the iPhone has been rebooted several times, my entire network and routers have been rebooted, the Tesla App has been removed and reinstalled all with no effect on waking the car from the App. I did install the 2023.12.9 update last week.

 

Has anyone else suffered a similar problem?

 

I'm also interested to know approximately how many seconds it takes for your app to wake your M3 after it has been parked for more the 15-30 minutes without sentry mode running?

 

Some web searching located a similar issue for some owners in the past where the 'Communication PCB' in the car was eventually replaced to solve the same problem.

 

 


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  #3080962 29-May-2023 18:00
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There is currently a known issue that Tesla has acknowledged regarding waking the car via the app, which started around Friday. As a work around, if you're in Bluetooth range of the car (on your phone you'll see a device connected that's a whole string of numbers and letters) you can try unlock the car and it will send the wake up command via Bluetooth instead.

 

For a bit of technical detail, when the car is asleep and you open the app it triggers Tesla's servers to send an SMS wake up message to the car. It seems there are issues with that SMS getting to the cars at the moment





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