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Topic # 159920 17-Dec-2014 11:16
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So, after test driving a number of vehicles, i believe Sante Fe Elite Limited is the one for me as it meets my budget and appears to be very reliable compared to the European cars. Iam keen to know what others think about:

1. If i should get additional mechanical warranty on top of the standard 3 year warranty to give me total 5 years
2. If it is worth buying capped price servicing in advance after the standard cover goes away
3. Should i be negotiating some extras to be thrown (e.g mats, full tank of fuel etc.) in or is that not the norm 
4. I was thinking of getting a tow bar and step rails put in as an accessory. Is there any benefit to getting a third party to install those or is it better off installed by the dealer
5. Any other accessory i should think of adding in which is useful


Thanks in advance :)

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  Reply # 1198958 17-Dec-2014 11:19
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I'm not sure about the others (I've never bought a new car), but I thought Hyundai was advertising the towbar free anyway.

I'd say drive as hard a bargain as you can - mats, fuel, ORC, Service plans.



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  Reply # 1198960 17-Dec-2014 11:22
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The tow bar offer has expired but thanks for your tip

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1198979 17-Dec-2014 11:38
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We bought a new Toyota in 2013 and we got .
Free tires for life.
Free servicing for 5 years
Free road side assistance for 5 years. 

These sort of things come and go  so may pay to shop around..




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  Reply # 1198982 17-Dec-2014 11:47
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I'd check with the dealer re 3rd-party towbar installation, as I have heard this may cause potential issues with honouring the car's warranty. I looked into getting one fitted to our car, and this was mentioned by the dealer - I've decided to either hold off until the three year warranty period is up or bite the bullet and accept the ridiculous charge Mazda has for towbars.

And I assume you're wedded to the idea of a totally new car? Seems crazy to me, given the savings you'd get from purchasing even a demo model will be more than enough to fit out the towbar, rails etc with change to spare... But I'm glad there are people willing to buy new so the rest of us can enjoy the savings later on!


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  Reply # 1198987 17-Dec-2014 11:49
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old3eyes: We bought a new Toyota in 2013 and we got .
Free tires for life.
Free servicing for 5 years
Free road side assistance for 5 years. 

These sort of things come and go  so may pay to shop around..


Free tires for life?  No prizes for guessing what car hoons will be driving in the future ;-)

I worked for Ford's Research facility at Dunton in the UK until I retired (ten years ago at age 54 :-) )  and we got up to 20% discount on a new Ford.  This meant we could sell the car after a year, and only loose a few hundred UK pounds, so there were a 'lot' of new cars in the car park.  Every year new colours would be introduced, so when you clocked out, you were faced with hundreds of identical cars.  It was a bugger when you spent twenty minutes looking for your car, and then remember you got a lift in with your mate that day!




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  Reply # 1198997 17-Dec-2014 12:00
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Get the dealership to do the towbar. New cars have got so complex with their electronics it will probably need a special wire harness. Not like the good old days of using scotch clips to get the lights going.

TLD:I worked for Ford's Research facility at Dunton in the UK until I retired (ten years ago at age 54 :-) )  and we got up to 20% discount on a new Ford.  This meant we could sell the car after a year, and only loose a few hundred UK pounds, so there were a 'lot' of new cars in the car park.  Every year new colours would be introduced, so when you clocked out, you were faced with hundreds of identical cars.  It was a bugger when you spent twenty minutes looking for your car, and then remember you got a lift in with your mate that day!


Ha, half my family have worked at UK Ford at one stage or another. Mostly in the old Dagenham plant I think. Quite a few Jags/Fords in the family in the UK even now. 

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  Reply # 1199022 17-Dec-2014 12:35
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t0ny: So, after test driving a number of vehicles, i believe Sante Fe Elite Limited is the one for me as it meets my budget and appears to be very reliable compared to the European cars. Iam keen to know what others think about:

1. If i should get additional mechanical warranty on top of the standard 3 year warranty to give me total 5 years
2. If it is worth buying capped price servicing in advance after the standard cover goes away
3. Should i be negotiating some extras to be thrown (e.g mats, full tank of fuel etc.) in or is that not the norm 
4. I was thinking of getting a tow bar and step rails put in as an accessory. Is there any benefit to getting a third party to install those or is it better off installed by the dealer
5. Any other accessory i should think of adding in which is useful


Thanks in advance :)


Does Hyundai not offer a 5 year warranty?  The two almost new Kia's I own both have 5 year warranties (albeit a sister company of Hyundai).

If I were you I would put everything on the table you wanted and negotiate the best price from there.  Be prepared to walk away if your price is not met or close to it (assuming you are being realistic).  In terms of petrol and mats, I expect those things to be standard when I buy a car so would tell the dealer they were automatic inclusions no matter what the deal was.

Disclaimer - my vehicle purchasing history has been always buying ex-demo cars (practically brand new with the first whack of depreciation), one brand new Hyundai, and an older BMW.  Not all cars had mats installed but I always walked away with them being included.

Good luck with your purchase whatever you decide to do.

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  Reply # 1199029 17-Dec-2014 12:39
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If you're set on a particular model start ringing around Hyundai dealers and see who can give you the best deal. 
I had a friend recently travel fly from Auckland to Napier to pickup his new i30 because even with the time / cost involved travelling to get it he still walked away with a decent saving over buying it from the local dealer

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  Reply # 1199031 17-Dec-2014 12:41
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I've never bought a new car either, but I'd say that the lure of your umpty-thousand dollars will mean you'll get the best deal possible in terms of price for a towbar or other extras.

I'd haggle now if I was you.

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  Reply # 1199039 17-Dec-2014 12:42
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Andib: If you're set on a particular model start ringing around Hyundai dealers and see who can give you the best deal. 
I had a friend recently travel fly from Auckland to Napier to pickup his new i30 because even with the time / cost involved travelling to get it he still walked away with a decent saving over buying it from the local dealer


Same is true of used cars. We bought ours in Te Awamutu - for the same money it was 1 year newer with 50000 fewer kms than those in Auckland (Mitubishi Outlander).

If you time it you can get to Wellington/Palmerston North for under $200. Just factor in a tank of gas or two.

South Island takes a bit more maths as you have to include ferry plus a LOT of driving.

Otherwise a lot of places will transport your car for $1k or so.

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  Reply # 1199087 17-Dec-2014 13:23
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t0ny: So, after test driving a number of vehicles, i believe Sante Fe Elite Limited is the one for me as it meets my budget and appears to be very reliable compared to the European cars. Iam keen to know what others think about:

1. If i should get additional mechanical warranty on top of the standard 3 year warranty to give me total 5 years
2. If it is worth buying capped price servicing in advance after the standard cover goes away
3. Should i be negotiating some extras to be thrown (e.g mats, full tank of fuel etc.) in or is that not the norm 
4. I was thinking of getting a tow bar and step rails put in as an accessory. Is there any benefit to getting a third party to install those or is it better off installed by the dealer
5. Any other accessory i should think of adding in which is useful


Thanks in advance :)


1 - yes if possible. ask them to include for free. if not walk away to another dealer.
2 - yes if you plan to keep the car
3 - mats and towbar and extra warranty and anthing you can think of. not no then walk away to another dealer. nothing to lose
4 - best by dealer. wiring is very very very complicated
5 - see 3




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  Reply # 1199089 17-Dec-2014 13:24
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Hyundai is a fleet car company. they sell their cars to fleet at a 30% discount last I checked. so a 10% discount to you is easily doable. Not Honda or Subaru or some other. Some companies don't do discounts. Each dealership are different depending on whether they've met their sales target etc

if you city only has one dealer then tough luck. maybe try another dealer in another town




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  Reply # 1199200 17-Dec-2014 14:46
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Thanks everyone for their tips. Iam getting a decent discount (not 30% though lol) so brand new makes sense. Will push to get warranty and servicing for 5 years + mats. Maybe get a tank of gas and RUC while iam at it.

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  Reply # 1199294 17-Dec-2014 16:13
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Satch: Does Hyundai not offer a 5 year warranty?  The two almost new Kia's I own both have 5 year warranties (albeit a sister company of Hyundai).


Five year warranties are slowing becoming the norm, but Hyundai are still advertising three years. It's my understanding that Kia, Mitsubishi, Toyota, GM, Renault, Fiat, Suzuki and Honda are now offering five years as standard, however if purchasing any other marque it should be easy enough to convince them to match the competition.

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Ha, half my family have worked at UK Ford at one stage or another. Mostly in the old Dagenham plant I think. Quite a few Jags/Fords in the family in the UK even now. 


I did a long course at Dagenham once, and we were allowed to tour the production plant with one of the local maintenance guys who was on the course with us.  'Twas a real eye opener.  For a start off there were not a lot of people to be seen as so much is done with robots nowadays.  I stodd fascinated watching sheet metal being more or less hurled into a huge press, and mentioned my worry that there was no guard.  Turned out there was a multi beam laser guard, that I was within an ace of tripping, and the resulting line stoppage would have been like Armageddon!  Probably an urban myth, but he told me the robot software went wrong one time, and threw the sheet metal out across the factory floor.  It would have cut you in two no doubt about it.

The lunch break hooter went off while we were there, so we waited for the restart by a paint spray area.  The line started up, and a car body slowly moved threw the paint shop with about six guys with spray guns around it.  A few minutes later, another guy came in, put on his hood, picked up his gun, and just had time to put a tiny splash of pain on 'his corner' of the car body before the next one came along.  I asked my buddy what would happen, and he said stuff like that gets fixed at the end of the line, but I bet it cost hundreds to fix that one man's tardiness.

Talking about robots and employee numbers, I thought it ironic that the average Ford UK production plant had less than a thousand people working there, but Dunton had anything up six or seven thousand at times.  It got a lot less when the Japanese manufactures came along developing new models in half the time at a tiny fraction of the cost.  I actually enjoyed the relaxation of demarcation this bought to FMC.




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