INCORRECT License Details on Infringement Notice

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#198158 28-Jun-2016 17:59

Hi, was wondering if anybody could give me some advice - unfortunately I got a speeding ticket at the weekend for going 15km over the limit after passing another vehicle. Upon looking at my ticket tonight I realised that the officer has copied my license details down incorrectly. Does this make my ticket invalid, aside from the obvious spelling errors, to me your license number is specifically assigned to you. An incorrect number does not match up to my name and details. Can anyone shed any light on to this. TIA

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#1582224 28-Jun-2016 18:15

Perhaps wait and see if the reminder arrives?

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#1582228 28-Jun-2016 18:21

Laws are different from country to country but a somewhat frequent theme in criminal drama movies is that if you committed a crime and got acquitted in the court of law, you cannot be tried again for the same thing even in face of new irrefutable evidence. This demonstrates that from law perspective there are situations when you broke the law but you shell not suffer the punishment. I have no idea if a similar principle works with incorrectly filled in tickets but in the unlikely (from my uninformed point of view) case that it does one should not be required by law to pay the ticket.

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#1582229 28-Jun-2016 18:24

Call them and ask :P

IANAL but you could question the ticket as it does not have the correct info so you could just say "was not me, look the plate is different"

But lets face it you were going 15k OVER the posted speed limit, you know you did it, do what you think is right.

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#1582243 28-Jun-2016 18:50

You are stuck with it. They have your registration number and will simply put the onus on you to identify the driver if you claim it's not you.

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#1582256 28-Jun-2016 19:00

The main ingredients of this offence is that you were the driver of a vehicle on the road and that you were travelling at a speed in excess of whatever the speed limit is. Inconsequential errors in process do not automatically mean the charge cannot be proven, and unless they are unfairly prejudicial a court will overlook such things. I thought Police tickets were all electronic now? Don't they just scan your drivers licence?

Moral judgement aside, and I am in the camp of 'stop trying to weasel out of it'...you could write in and alert them to the fact. You may be lucky and get off, or they may simply re-issue the ticket with the right information. They have 6 months to lay a traffic charge.

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#1582259 28-Jun-2016 19:07

scuwp:

The main ingredients of this offence is that you were the driver of a vehicle on the road and that you were travelling at a speed in excess of whatever the speed limit is. Inconsequential errors in process do not automatically mean the charge cannot be proven, and unless they are unfairly prejudicial a court will overlook such things. I thought Police tickets were all electronic now? Don't they just scan your drivers licence?

Moral judgement aside, and I am in the camp of 'stop trying to weasel out of it'...you could write in and alert them to the fact. You may be lucky and get off, or they may simply re-issue the ticket with the right information. They have 6 months to lay a traffic charge.

My last (and only mind you) naughty wave, landed me a fully hand written ticket.

to be fair, it was along the Taupaki straights, where there is next to no signal so maybe electronic wasn't possible at the time?

When paying it, it went fully through the online system, so must have been entered to the system at some point.

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#1582318 28-Jun-2016 20:11

I have removed a post with a moral judgement. The OP asked a question about technicality of a ticket, not if he was guilty of something or not.

Keep on topic folks.

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#1582324 28-Jun-2016 20:16

I would be heading down the track of, you got one detail obviously wrong, what other details did you get wrong? speed? location? time?

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#1582330 28-Jun-2016 20:23

yes well i joined the geek zone really just to see if anybody basically knew anything from the legal side of things, thank you to all who replied, however having only just joined up tonight, my geek zone registration will be short-lived as after some replies I find there are too many people on here wanting to pass malicious personal opinion rather than factual information that was actually requested.

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#1582335 28-Jun-2016 20:31

coosh:

yes well i joined the geek zone really just to see if anybody basically knew anything from the legal side of things, thank you to all who replied, however having only just joined up tonight, my geek zone registration will be short-lived as after some replies I find there are too many people on here wanting to pass malicious personal opinion rather than factual information that was actually requested.

Id suggest stay awhile. GZ is a collection of people. People exist everywhere. GZers are not any different, apart from those microchipped at birth by aliens.

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#1582339 28-Jun-2016 20:33

coosh: ... however having only just joined up tonight, my geek zone registration will be short-lived as after some replies I find there are too many people on here wanting to pass malicious personal opinion rather than factual information that was actually requested.

That's why I removed a couple of replies. We try to keep things on topic but people are... people.

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#1582342 28-Jun-2016 20:38

freitasm:

That's why I removed a couple of replies. We try to keep things on topic but people are... people.

And some people are more... people... than others

I had a ticket once with the wrong name on it.. Couldn't get out of it, it was my car :(

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#1582350 28-Jun-2016 20:56

I once got a ticket dated 31 June and it was initially processed. I replied denying it but without saying why - and never heard any more about it.

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#1582371 28-Jun-2016 21:45

Oldie but relevant (and funny and long). Cant find the original source so this will have to do.

http://www.lettersofnote.com/2011/09/its-more-likely-that-i-was-doing-911kmh.html

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#1582394 29-Jun-2016 00:46

A few years ago I got a stationary infringement for my vehicle being parked in X Road with a (recently) expired registration label.

Unfortunately for him/her, the ticket issuer (council officer) wrote Y Street on the ticket, which was actually the next street over.

I wrote a polite letter to council advising that I could provide photographic proof that on the day in question, my vehicle was not parked in X Rd, and questioned what other details on the ticket might be incorrect. I never actually offered them the photographic evidence (even though I had it), nor did I advise them exactly what road I was parked in.

I received a letter back from council advising that they acknowledged their error, and that there would be no further action taken by them. Had they refused to cancel the ticket I would have just paid it.

There will of course be the naysayers with the opinion that I broke the law and should have paid the penalty etc. However I argue that when renewing registration, it is always back-dated to when the previous label expired anyway, so if I do happen to renew it a few days late, I am not rorting the system or somehow getting something for nothing, ultimately the crown is not missing out on revenue, so I don't see why I should be penalised. Police officers almost always allow a period of compliance in such instances, and in any case the lack of registration does not make the vehicle any less safe to me or any other road user.

I think the OP is quite within his/her rights to question the validity of the ticket. Letting a ticket error slide might seem like a small thing, however we must hold people in positions of power to account, as accuracy and truth are the very cornerstones of justice. Teina Pora allowed the Police to tell him what happened that fateful night and unfortunately he didn't have the mental capacity to say otherwise. While an extreme comparison, that terrible situation demonstrates that in some instances, we should let facts get in the way of a good story....

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