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Topic # 198821 24-Jul-2016 08:48
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Just picked up a Holden Barina and I was given two keys. One is the typical flip key like this

 

http://goo.gl/TAfLTE

 

The second has a fixed blade (supposed to be a spare) which is a bit awkward because the key blade can make holes in the pocket etc.

 

Fixed key

 

I was wondering if it's possible to buy the case as in the first link and move the electronics from the second key to the first? I know I would have to have the cut and move the PCB but is there an immobiliser chip in the key also I have to move or is it on the PCB that controls the open/close?

 

 

 

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  Reply # 1597608 24-Jul-2016 09:07
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you would probably need to buy a folding key as opposed to transferring it over, get it cut and then programmed as these days they contain the immobiliser stuff in the key

 

ask the dealer for a price

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  Reply # 1597612 24-Jul-2016 09:26
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dont ask the dealer for the price. it will be way too high. 

 

Best to google some local lock smiths that do this type of stuff. Heaps around one I think is called "access lock". 



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  Reply # 1597639 24-Jul-2016 10:44
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I have asked the dealer for a quote just to see. But can't I just buy the case as I referenced and then ask a local locksmith to cut the new key and transfer the electronics? Or they could provide the new case for about what I could get it for?




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  Reply # 1597649 24-Jul-2016 11:04
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i doubt you will be able to transfer the internals and have it work properly. you will need to buy a new folding key, be it from the dealer or a Chinese knock-off of trademe or aliexpress etc.

 

you will then need it cut and programmed, and even that can cost a hundred or so dollars



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  Reply # 1597752 24-Jul-2016 15:33
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If the PCB on the folding key and the fixed key are the same shape, then it might be easy enough to get a new folding key and blade with case, get the blade cut by a local locksmith and insert the electronics from the fixed blade key into this new case assuming the immobiliser chip is something that can be located and moved? That's what I was asking.




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  Reply # 1597779 24-Jul-2016 17:01
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well seeing as you have both, open them and see, we cant answer that as we dont have the keys.

 

they might be the same, but like i said i doubt it

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  Reply # 1597783 24-Jul-2016 17:09
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I've had cars with "fixed keys" for almost four decades (still do) and never ended up with a hole in my pocket yet. I must be a pretty lucky guy.

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  Reply # 1597790 24-Jul-2016 17:18
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andrew027:

 

I've had cars with "fixed keys" for almost four decades (still do) and never ended up with a hole in my pocket yet. I must be a pretty lucky guy.

 

 

 

 

Me too! I was wondering how pockets survived for the last 100 years before folding keys were invented.... Strangely, my front door key doesn't fold either.

 

 

 

 

 

OP, some cars have the ability to program their own keys after batteries go flat and get replaced. There's usually a sequence of turning the ignition on and off.

 

Google is your friend.

 

 

 

 edit: BTW, if you open it and stuff it, you have an expensive piece of rubbish.



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  Reply # 1597826 24-Jul-2016 19:17
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Jase2985:

 

well seeing as you have both, open them and see, we cant answer that as we dont have the keys.

 

they might be the same, but like i said i doubt it

 

 

 

 

The car is one day old and my wife's. I thought I might do some research before breaking the key :-)




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  Reply # 1597827 24-Jul-2016 19:18
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blakamin:

 

andrew027:

 

I've had cars with "fixed keys" for almost four decades (still do) and never ended up with a hole in my pocket yet. I must be a pretty lucky guy.

 

 

 

 

Me too! I was wondering how pockets survived for the last 100 years before folding keys were invented.... Strangely, my front door key doesn't fold wither.

 

 

 

 

 

OP, some cars have the ability to program their own keys after batteries go flat and get replaced. There's usually a sequence of turning the ignition on and off.

 

Google is your friend.

 

 

 

 edit: BTW, if you open it and stuff it, you have an expensive piece of rubbish.

 

 

 

 

I don't have a front door key - it's a digital lock with keypad. And I have Google'd this a fair bit but while finding blanks I cannot find a way to transfer the PCB




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  Reply # 1597837 24-Jul-2016 19:40
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What year is you car? "Barina key programming" comes up with a youtube vid. Buy an ebay blank...  At worst, you'll have to get it done at a locksmith. 

 

Personally, I wouldn't pull it apart and expect it to work again. Probably the reason swapping the board won't come up in google.

 

 

 

As for not having a front door key, yay! Your pockets will forever be safe... I dunno what the rest of us will do, with our holey pockets... Oh, wait, I don't have holes... Imagine that. :D



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blakamin:

 

What year is you car? "Barina key programming" comes up with a youtube vid. Buy an ebay blank...  At worst, you'll have to get it done at a locksmith. 

 

Personally, I wouldn't pull it apart and expect it to work again. Probably the reason swapping the board won't come up in google.

 

 

 

As for not having a front door key, yay! Your pockets will forever be safe... I dunno what the rest of us will do, with our holey pockets... Oh, wait, I don't have holes... Imagine that. :D

 

 

 

 

2016. I didn't find any videos on Youtube. You can buy a blank from ebay or Aliexpress but it won't have the electronics or immobiliser - they are just shells (well from what I could tell)




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  Reply # 1599228 26-Jul-2016 20:43
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I received a quote of $400 for the second key!  I think now I might take apart the key and see if I can slot it into a new shell!




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  Reply # 1600443 29-Jul-2016 07:29
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400 is pretty reasonable, ive seen some go for over 1k, they were buttonless entry though

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  Reply # 1600536 29-Jul-2016 09:17
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I've never owned a car with a folding key and I have never had a hole in my pocket for a fixed blade car key.

 

Seen as it is your wife's car what is her opinion? Does she really need a second folding key?  Seems like a lot of effort for little reward.

 

 

 

 




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