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#204539 6-Oct-2016 09:20
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HI Folks

 

Anyone had any experience with the above Comments welcome

 

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  #1646379 6-Oct-2016 09:23
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Have test driven the 2016 model. That is about it tho. Very nice vehicle. 50km electricity-only range which is enough for most daily commutes. I personally wasn't a fan of hybrids however, the big benefit IMO of EVs is their simplicity and therefore reduced maintenance. A hybrid seems to have _additional_ complexity due to the two power sources and the various drive trains etc for swapping from ICE to EV mode etc. Just seems like there is even more that could go wrong in one of these compared to a standard ICE or full EV.




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  #1646404 6-Oct-2016 09:52
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I looked at these before getting my Camry hybrid. Firstly, they are a big vehicle, which I didn't want particularly, because it's mainly for use in the city (where the 50km range is useful).
From memory, they have minimal towing capability as well (same with Camry hybrid). So if you plan to do the usual SUV things with it like tow a boat (even a little one) you will be out of luck. I got my Camry fully aware of the towing issue. The new generation RAV4 hybrid is supposedly being released here next year and has a 1500kg towing capacity but isn't as big as the Outlander if you want a large vehicle..
When I did the sums you are paying about $18K for the EV technology compared to a similarly specced ICE Outlander.
I know none of the above is applicable if you are after the plugin aspect of the PHEV, but for the type of vehicle the PHEV is, the drawbacks and additional cost outweigh the benefits of only 50km of electric range (imo)




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  #1646443 6-Oct-2016 10:42
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You may find this useful. These guys give it 7/10

 

 

 

http://www.caradvice.com.au/390997/2016-mitsubishi-outlander-phev-review/




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  #1646601 6-Oct-2016 13:05
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Cheers Folks Thanks for the comments I am tossing up between one of these and a 30Kw Leaf

 

Betwixt and between

 

 


  #1646606 6-Oct-2016 13:07
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IMO a lot more bang for your buck with a Leaf (that is what I went with).

 

But really depends what you need the car for - i.e. a Leaf ain't much use as a family holiday/travelling wagon...


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  #1646970 6-Oct-2016 22:04
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From memory, they have minimal towing capability as well (same with Camry hybrid).

 

Yeah, it has 750kg Braked, quite small for a SUV of this size (Camry hybrid's rating is tiny at 300kg)

In every other market (other than Japan & NZ) they Outlander PHEV is rated for 1500 kg Breaked towing. Pity they downrated it for us.


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  #1647017 7-Oct-2016 07:14
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Just read the linked article ... It has a 65kw electric motor on the front and another similar one in the rear? That should be pretty decent considering the estima hybrid has a 15kw motor for the front and the rear ... Common people movers catch up!

 
 
 

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  #1647018 7-Oct-2016 07:23
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Dingbatt: I looked at these before getting my Camry hybrid. Firstly, they are a big vehicle, which I didn't want particularly, because it's mainly for use in the city (where the 50km range is useful).
From memory, they have minimal towing capability as well (same with Camry hybrid). So if you plan to do the usual SUV things with it like tow a boat (even a little one) you will be out of luck. I got my Camry fully aware of the towing issue. The new generation RAV4 hybrid is supposedly being released here next year and has a 1500kg towing capacity but isn't as big as the Outlander if you want a large vehicle..
When I did the sums you are paying about $18K for the EV technology compared to a similarly specced ICE Outlander.
I know none of the above is applicable if you are after the plugin aspect of the PHEV, but for the type of vehicle the PHEV is, the drawbacks and additional cost outweigh the benefits of only 50km of electric range (imo)


Incorrect - Outlander PHEV has full 1500kg (braked) towing rating.

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  #1647019 7-Oct-2016 07:26
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nakedmolerat:
Dingbatt: I looked at these before getting my Camry hybrid. Firstly, they are a big vehicle, which I didn't want particularly, because it's mainly for use in the city (where the 50km range is useful).
From memory, they have minimal towing capability as well (same with Camry hybrid). So if you plan to do the usual SUV things with it like tow a boat (even a little one) you will be out of luck. I got my Camry fully aware of the towing issue. The new generation RAV4 hybrid is supposedly being released here next year and has a 1500kg towing capacity but isn't as big as the Outlander if you want a large vehicle..
When I did the sums you are paying about $18K for the EV technology compared to a similarly specced ICE Outlander.
I know none of the above is applicable if you are after the plugin aspect of the PHEV, but for the type of vehicle the PHEV is, the drawbacks and additional cost outweigh the benefits of only 50km of electric range (imo)


Incorrect - Outlander PHEV has full 1500kg (braked) towing rating.


Not according to Mitsubishi Motors NZ and the Outlander Brochure, the stated towing weights are 750 braked or unbraked.

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  #1647023 7-Oct-2016 07:45
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Presumably NZ is much more hilly than Australia

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  #1647024 7-Oct-2016 07:46
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MikeB4:
nakedmolerat:
Dingbatt: I looked at these before getting my Camry hybrid. Firstly, they are a big vehicle, which I didn't want particularly, because it's mainly for use in the city (where the 50km range is useful).
From memory, they have minimal towing capability as well (same with Camry hybrid). So if you plan to do the usual SUV things with it like tow a boat (even a little one) you will be out of luck. I got my Camry fully aware of the towing issue. The new generation RAV4 hybrid is supposedly being released here next year and has a 1500kg towing capacity but isn't as big as the Outlander if you want a large vehicle..
When I did the sums you are paying about $18K for the EV technology compared to a similarly specced ICE Outlander.
I know none of the above is applicable if you are after the plugin aspect of the PHEV, but for the type of vehicle the PHEV is, the drawbacks and additional cost outweigh the benefits of only 50km of electric range (imo)


Incorrect - Outlander PHEV has full 1500kg (braked) towing rating.


Not according to Mitsubishi Motors NZ and the Outlander Brochure, the stated towing weights are 750 braked or unbraked.


Hard to say why we get a different figure to everyone else.
We must be getting the same model - nz is too small to get a 'special' model variant.




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  #1647025 7-Oct-2016 07:46
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See my post above

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  #1647061 7-Oct-2016 09:01
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I almost think MMNZ have typo'd or just copy/pasted the unbraked to braked, to be honest. Both the JDM and AU market Outlander PHEVs are rated to 750kg unbraked/1500kg braked - there's near zero chance there's any specification difference in our model significant enough to affect that. I'd ask a dealer if I were seriously interested.


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  #1647094 7-Oct-2016 09:37
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If you are tossing up between a Leaf and an Outlander for the purpose of getting into an EV. Then your use case will determine which to go for. Mostly round town, short trips, modest load capacity and $25K to spend, go for the Leaf. A balance of round town and out into the wop-wops driving (no charging stations, yet), need the bigger load capacity and have $50K to drop on a vehicle then the Outlander should be considered.
Personally, I look forward to uncompromised EVs becoming readily available (range, size, looks and cost) . In the interim I'll stick with my hybrid.

And yes I was working on old info as far as towing capacity went. When the Outlander was first released in NZ (a couple of years ago?) , it's towing capacity quoted to me by the Mitsubishi salesman was zero. Obviously improved rating since then, but still not great for an 'SUV'.




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  #1647098 7-Oct-2016 09:55
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Obviously improved rating since then, but still not great for an 'SUV'.

 

750kg unbraked / 1500kg braked is much the same as the X-Trail, Captiva (the base one at least, I think the diesel is rated higher), Kuga, CX-5, CRv etc. To get significantly higher, you would be looking at a large SUV - Pajero for example has 3000kg braked towing rating.


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