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#288215 14-Jun-2021 16:33
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Are cycle lanes one way with the direction of traffic by default?

 

I was driving down a stretch of street with a cycle lane on the left of the road. I needed to turn left across the cycle lane so checked for cyclists riding with the flow of traffic (i.e. to the left and behind me) but then was quite surprised to find one heading straight towards me against the flow of traffic. No actual harm done, though mutual expressions of shock and surprise were exchanged.

 

I know there are some two way cycle lanes, but was under the impression that these were specially marked and everything else is only one-way, with the flow of traffic. 

 

This was on Rongotai Road in Kilbirnie, Wellington if anyone knows the area. It's a two way street, though has massive traffic islands/berms in the middle of the street separating the traffic in each direction. Both directions have their own cycleways.


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  #2728591 14-Jun-2021 16:43
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Pretty sure that "on road" (even if separated) cycleways inherit the underlying traffic direction, 

 

When it was being consulted on all the documentation indicated single direction of travel.. 

 

https://www.transportprojects.org.nz/current/kilbirnie-connections/rongotai-road-onepu-road-to-te-whiti-street/what-were-building/

 

 


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  #2728593 14-Jun-2021 16:47
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"I know there are some two lane cycle lanes...."

 

Really . That would be the most dangerous idea ever
Common sense would be if on the road , you dont go the opposite direction. Even if on a cycle lane.

https://at.govt.nz/cycling-walking/advice-support/riding-on-shared-paths-cycleways-the-road/
"When riding a bike on the road you must legally obey the road rules"
Surely a cycle lane is still part of the road.
Perhaps no one thought a special law was needed to clearly state this : because its so obvious ?

 


Cyclists are there own worst enemy sometimes . Going against the flow of traffic in a cycle lane, just a matter of time before theres a death from this.

 

 


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  #2728594 14-Jun-2021 16:50
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NZTA has this on their website (Beach Road, Auckland apparently - the one I was dealing with didn't look like this):

 




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  #2728596 14-Jun-2021 16:51
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https://www.nzta.govt.nz/walking-cycling-and-public-transport/cycling/cycling-standards-and-guidance/cycling-network-guidance/designing-a-cycle-facility/between-intersections/separated-cycleways/

 

Separated cycleways can be either .........two-way (bi-directional) ie both directions for cycling accommodated within one facility on one side of the road.
Separated cycleways are facilities exclusively for cycling. They involve some form of physical separation from motor traffic 


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  #2728597 14-Jun-2021 16:53
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1101:

 

"I know there are some two lane cycle lanes...."

 

Really . That would be the most dangerous idea ever
Common sense would be if on the road , you dont go the opposite direction. Even if on a cycle lane.

 

 

drum roll please.....

 

I give you the Contra-flow bike lane

 

"Contra-flow bike lanes are not yet common in New Zealand, but are used in many countries including Australia. They allow people to cycle in both directions on one-way streets. Contra-flow lanes work best in streets with low traffic flows and low average speeds."

 

https://www.transportprojects.org.nz/current/central/contra-flow-cycle-lanes/

 

443A5668 Melbourne contraflow lane jpg


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  #2728604 14-Jun-2021 17:06
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There are two way cycle lanes but they’re usually clearly marked and usually separated from the road. A good example in Auckland would have the light path. One road ones are generally one way in my experience and follow the direction of other traffic  

 

It’s possible the cyclist you encountered mdf simply made a mistake or an error of judgement because they are after all human, rather than it being a case of (per 1101) “being their own worst enemy”

 

Just like when you see car drivers going the wrong way down a one way, or driving in a bus lane (which I’ve seen three times this morning whilst I’ve been in Wellington). 


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  #2728629 14-Jun-2021 18:23
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They're largely marked in CHC CBD that some bikers ignore and think they have all the rights in the world to use the 1-way street ones backwards.

 

But it's a big indicator they got it wrong when there are light sensors and their own traffic lights facing 1 way...


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