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#288295 18-Jun-2021 20:03
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My car came fitted with Continental Contisportcontact 5 tyres. I'm looking for other options when it comes to replacing them.

I'm not that impressed with the mileage I'm getting and they seem to be prone to punctures though that may be just bad luck.

The Michelin Pilot Sport 4's seem to get good reviews. I'd be interested in other people's experiences with the Michelins or any other similar tyres wrt mileage, handling, noise.

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  #2730844 18-Jun-2021 20:06
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i have the PS4.

 

noisy but works very well. the PS4 seems to give you plenty of warning before they let loose. it's my top sport tyre.

 

I also have the conti on another car. less noisy but they are soft as. sneeze at them and they will melt, the wear rate is phenomenal. but they are also another top sport tyre other than the wear rate but more comfortable.




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What make car will they be fitted on? I have the Michelin Pilot Sport 4's on my Mercedes. Good grippy tyre. Ended up with them when I couldn't get my usual Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin's just after lockdown. The Mercedes has sport suspension so it chews through tyres no matter what it's fitted with. The Sport 4's are wearing the same as the Potenza's which I've always thought wear well. I would probably go for the Sport 4's again. The Sport 4's are more expensive.

 

Some websites boast 80,000miles tyre wear, but I'd say yeah/nah, maybe if you combine 4 tyres at 20,000miles each.


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  #2730850 18-Jun-2021 20:56
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Yes but you've not tried the conti



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  #2730851 18-Jun-2021 21:00
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They're going on a RSV Commodore, 235 kw,, adaptive all wheel drive.

I have no complaints regarding the handling of the Continentals. Mind you the handling is probably as much due to the car as anything else, the adaptive all wheel drive system on it is outstanding.

Road noise is so so. Unhappy with the wear, plus I've had two punctures in less than 30,000 km when I've had may be one in over 400,000 km on my other car with different tyres but similar driving and similar sized car.

 

Are you saying the PS4's are more expensive than the Bridgestones? By much? How do they compare otherwise?





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  #2730854 18-Jun-2021 21:06
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The Bridgestone's look like they are an asymmetric tyre. Is that correct? 





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  #2732797 22-Jun-2021 19:02
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Bridgestone Adrenaline is a lower tier / performing tyre than the PS4. Conti has so many tiers I don't know where Sport Contact stands but iirc it's a lower tier than the PS4.

 

If I were you - either the Conti or the Pilot Sport 4.

 

Conti for comfort, PS4 for crazy performance.

 

Mind you i have a new set of Conti Max Contact 6 (i think it's the max - they have many tiers of contact) and they seem to have improved on their wear-ness over the 5. Anything starting with a 5 is poor. The ones that has the number 6 were built to last longer as the 5s were wearing so quickly.

 

Since its release the PS4 tops most tyre test charts for its tier and consistently tops the wet handling section which i find most important. The conti something something of the same tier sometimes tops the wet braking bit.


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  #2732814 22-Jun-2021 20:09
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I rate PS4s highly - there is a difference between PS4 and PS4s - so make sure you check.

 

 

 

Hyperdrive has very competitive pricing; and they have local fitters and in my case; I had the tyres fitted through the Ford dealer in Wellington. For Ford it was good to keep their alignment / tyre areas busy by doing more than only servicing through their usual chain and tagged onto Hyperdrive. Hyper Drive | NZ's largest range of | Tyre's | Wheels | Roof Racks | Car Audio | PH 0800449737

 

 

 

Pirelli zero always rates well too - but I found PS4s to be well priced and with excellent wet grip.

 

 

 

Also please note, if I am living down in South Island (bottom half of it) - I will probably stick with all season tyres than summer tyres like PS4 / Conti discussed above etc. 

 

NZ chipseal really chews through our tyres quickly.

 

 

 

 


 
 
 

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  #2732823 22-Jun-2021 20:50
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PS4S is a higher tier, for > $100,000 cars ... unless you are Greg Murphy, PS4 is for you


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  #2732824 22-Jun-2021 20:51
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Insanekiwi:

 

Pirelli zero always rates well too - but I found PS4s to be well priced and with excellent wet grip.

 

 

a few tests show that the PS4 has better "wet handling" (no idea how they came to that conclusion) than the PS4S in their tests. PS4S is likely a dry track day tyre perhaps


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  #2732826 22-Jun-2021 20:53
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It’s not the cost of the car but what you do with it. I track my car so that was a superior choice over PS4. The price difference was small between the two.

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  #2732833 22-Jun-2021 21:13
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Quite a good comparison here between the 4 and 4s. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aMv64liOqIE




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  #2732936 23-Jun-2021 10:03
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I have the MICHELIN Pilot Sport 4 SUV on my 2019 Subaru outback and loving them. makes the trip to Ruapehu fun.


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  #2733032 23-Jun-2021 11:30
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A lot will come down to what is available and at what price.

 

The Continental Contisportcontact 5 is a high performance summer tire, and the most common options in that segment are the Bridgestone RE003 and the Mitchilen PS4. I think the RE003 is often a little cheaper, and has an edge in grip, but will have less tread life that the PS4. The PS4 is pitched as a more premium option in general.

 

RE003's are a very common performance street tire, I know three people who run them for general street use.

 

 

 

A quick note on summer tires - They have degraded performance below 6 deg C. Probably not an issue if you live in Auckland, but not ideal if you live in say wanaka, or do extensive snow sports.

 

 

 

If tread life is a major concern, you could also consider buying a tire specializing in that area:

 

As an example the Cooper RS3-G1 is an all season performance tire with a 500 tread wear rating.

 

 

 

Could also step down from a performance tire to a touring tire.

 

Had bridgestone long life touring tires (turanza serenity) on my corolla before I sold it. Had done over 20,000km on that set of tires, and still had about 8mm left all around (they come with 9.5mm new). That said, grip was a touch worse than the GT radial 228 performance touring tires they replaced, and on center feel was way way worse (may have been an alignment change)

 

 


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  #2733081 23-Jun-2021 12:34
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On the topic of tyres, I currently have a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4 on my car. However, I've noticed that these are called a summer tyre with a recommended operating temperature above 7c. Seeing that I live in Christchurch where the temps do drop below that (with the potential for snow in winter), should I instead be looking at a all-season tyre?





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  #2733091 23-Jun-2021 12:50
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I have the Pilot Sports on my BMW, and I have been extremely impressed with them.


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