Trucks: Ford F-150 vs. 2021 Chevrolet Silverado

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#289324 29-Aug-2021 09:32

Just what we need for soccer moms, cosseting parents and spornosexuals. As if our current pickups aren't big enough.

The GM Silverado compared to the Ford 150 is 4 cm longer, and 2 cm wider. If we ever see a Tesla Cybertruck, it'll be of similar size

Stuff: GMSV will sell you a decidedly unapologetic truck

Kelley Blue Book: 2021 Ford F-150 vs. 2021 Chevrolet Silverado Comparison

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#2768290 29-Aug-2021 10:17

I was travelling around northland and I saw more "trucks" than people. Quite a number of those trucks were these beasts. LHD too

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#2768304 29-Aug-2021 11:16

You know it's a landyacht when it supports 15 camera views.

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#2768313 29-Aug-2021 11:39

To be fair, the Trucks being sold now by GMSV (Formerly HSV) have been here for a little while, at least 1 year, maybe 2.

Below is a short video of the Re-engineering process of a Chevrolet Silverado from a few years ago by HSV. I believe that this still might be happening at the old HSV Facilities in Clayton, Melbourne.

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#2768314 29-Aug-2021 11:42

F-150 Lightning? Nuff said.

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#2768329 29-Aug-2021 12:42

Tray isn't big enough, can't fit a full sheet of ply on the deck without having the tail door down.

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#2768632 30-Aug-2021 09:30

I'm still stunned that these things start at $29k US and yet the cheapest version of the Silverado in NZ is $169k NZ.

I understand import costs and conversion etc, but really!?

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#2768637 30-Aug-2021 09:43

Base model vs higher spec models.

Plus the $29k is missing all the tax etc in the states.

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#2768639 30-Aug-2021 09:46

k1w1k1d:

Tray isn't big enough, can't fit a full sheet of ply on the deck without having the tail door down.

Cant do that on anything I have seen other than some flatbed ones that look more like what a landscaper would drive.

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#2769009 30-Aug-2021 20:55

Not really related, but here's an article someone posted about transporting plywood

http://theplywood.com/transporting

Plus Hauling rack for plywood / full sheet goods in a short bed truck and save space!

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#2769029 30-Aug-2021 22:04

mentalinc:

Base model vs higher spec models.

Plus the $29k is missing all the tax etc in the states.

There's quite an industry doing RHD conversions on these sorts of trucks in Australia. Pricing will be set to compete with that.

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#2769099 31-Aug-2021 04:59

Handsomedan:

I'm still stunned that these things start at $29k US and yet the cheapest version of the Silverado in NZ is $169k NZ.

I understand import costs and conversion etc, but really!?

You can knock 25-30% off those prices by importing/converting yourself (and by 'yourself' I mean with the assistance of a specialist like Eagle auto)
Really only worth it - brand new - if you're after a special order or custom truck with uncommon options.

A much better deal is if you import a vehicle that's not new - but has already been registered in North America.
Flying to the US or Canada, buying a truck, and touring with it for a couple of months before shipping it back was a pre-covid thing.

Proof of prior registration in the source market meets NZTA’s 'paper trail' requirement - the other option, a certified letter from the Manufacturer stating that your vehicle met the requirements for registration on the date of production has become impossible to get. Companies like FCA-Stellantis (Dodge) and Ford regard self-exported vehicles to be greymarket competitors to their authorised distributors and now generally refuse compliance statement requests.

Assuming you're willing to take on the risks of exchange rate fluctuations, shipping, insurance, MAF and tax issues you can expect the conversion/compliance process to take 6 months or so.

Resale value's another thing to keep in mind..

A quirk of NZ's (GVM of 3501kg or greater) cutoff for heavy vehicles means that 'pretty boy' half tons (WOF vehicles) fetch a premium over workhorse 2500 & 3500 models that require COF's (and associated certs)

Also the NZ resale market is skewed by the popularity of quad or crew cab (4 door) 4WD shortboxes – the more usable 8’ box (sheet of plywood fits in etc) is less popular, probably because - apart from towing - many buyers aren't actually planning to use their US pickups as genuine work vehicles.

Lots of traps to avoid. That's why buyers will pay a premium for a brand-new, warrantied vehicle they can just drive off the lot.

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#2769129 31-Aug-2021 09:19

I hate to encourage people buying large trucks ... I mean I really hate encouraging people to buy large trucks ... but there is unusual market for used RHD trucks in the US.

US rural mail services are commonly contracted out to local contractors.

The mailpersons use RHD trucks, so that they don't have to lean across the passenger seat to deliver mail.

Jeep Wranglers sells RHD versions, as a standard option. Any American can walk into any Jeep dealer and order a RHD vesion.

By the time they are sold, these are usually very high-mileage Jeeps, but they are often taken care of.

Note the same mailpersons who use large RHD trucks four wheel drives are usually in snowy area, which means lots of salt on the road. Also since they are using the road shoulders extensively, they are prone to suspension damage.

I'd avoid any Jeep that's above the Mason-Dixon line. Florida Jeeps are probably going to have beach usage also.

Though it's difficult without an American to help you stateside, exchanging the engine and tranny will be a lot cheaper in the US than here. Ideal would be swapping out a wrecked low mileage Jeep's powertrain with a new mileage one.

Prices for these trucks is all over the place, since no one but mailpeople want them in the US.

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#2769141 31-Aug-2021 09:35

I feel like this "Can't fit a sheet of 8x4 ply in the back, therefore its not suitable" thing is akin to the EV range debate. The number of times that people actually need to bring a home sheet of 8x4 ply is about the same number of times that people need to cover 700km in a single journey.

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#2769144 31-Aug-2021 09:40

Senecio:

I feel like this "Can't fit a sheet of 8x4 ply in the back, therefore its not suitable" thing is akin to the EV range debate. The number of times that people actually need to bring a home sheet of 8x4 ply is about the same number of times that people need to cover 700km in a single journey.

Funny because thats the whole reason I got the falcon over something newer with the stupid 4 doors and a tiny tray.

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