A380 - Production to Halt in 2021

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#2183712 19-Feb-2019 15:41

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This sums it up nicely ... click on thumbnail for full size image

Eh there are twice more 787 than there are A380 and A350 combined? Wow I thought Airbus was ahead of Boeing.

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#2183766 19-Feb-2019 15:57

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dafman:

This sums it up nicely ... click on thumbnail for full size image

Eh there are twice more 787 than there are A380 and A350 combined? Wow I thought Airbus was ahead of Boeing.

And current count of 787 outnumber 747 at its peak, which surprised me.

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#2183770 19-Feb-2019 16:02

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Batman:

dafman:

This sums it up nicely ... click on thumbnail for full size image

Eh there are twice more 787 than there are A380 and A350 combined? Wow I thought Airbus was ahead of Boeing.

And current count of 787 outnumber 747 at its peak, which surprised me.

Yeah, but good luck matching that service record!

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#2183793 19-Feb-2019 16:32

It's as if SQ scrapping 2 for parts being cheaper than re-fit is new news or something...

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12205308

It does ass some more value on such rumors etc however.

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#2185565 22-Feb-2019 20:04

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Coil:

I understand Emirates park their 3 380's on the tarmac every night or second night, fuel up to the brim and then fly to BNE, MEL, SYD. This must have some form of benefit for us.

Emirates have't flown the A380 TT for several years now. There is a single A380 flight to DXB every day.

I'd also be highly surprised if they ever flew TT with anything but minimum fuel requirements. Filling them with fuel would be totally pointless.

Time might be getting away on you. It's been less than a year since they stopped flying out of Auckland TT.

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#2186119 24-Feb-2019 05:32

nathan:

If Airbus had listened to its customers and re-engine onto a more fuel efficient engine, they might still have orders in their orderbook

When a customer sticks to RR, he has to live with. Do you have a glue what an engine development in this category costs?

The A380 development was a huge technological step forward - and last not least a boost for the manufacturer's way to globalization. It's worth the spent huge amount of development costs? Don't know but nevertheless, they're paid and we'll see what will come next. :-)

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#2186632 25-Feb-2019 07:41

Tinkerisk:

When a customer sticks to RR, he has to live with. Do you have a glue what an engine development in this category costs?

So you're saying that Rolls Royce have solved the customer stickiness issue?

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#2186652 25-Feb-2019 08:46

Glad to see they can solve something, can't seem to solve reliability issues!

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#2187649 26-Feb-2019 16:18

Beccara:

Glad to see they can solve something, can't seem to solve reliability issues!

And not just RR and its aero engine business. I'd imagine many large engineering companies based in Europe probably think Britain as a whole has a reliability problem.

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#2187835 27-Feb-2019 07:59

amiga500:

Beccara:

Glad to see they can solve something, can't seem to solve reliability issues!

And not just RR and its aero engine business. I'd imagine many large engineering companies based in Europe probably think Britain as a whole has a reliability problem.

Just me that shivers when they see these badges in a workshop?

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#2187860 27-Feb-2019 08:44

Most of them are not owned in the UK

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#2187861 27-Feb-2019 08:44

Coil:

Just me that shivers when they see these badges in a workshop?

The workshop owner should be rubbing his hands together with glee.

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#2187965 27-Feb-2019 11:38

nathan:

the plane will still be in service for 20-25-30 years, so no need for any disappointment, especially against an airline

If Airbus had listened to its customers and re-engine onto a more fuel efficient engine, they might still have orders in their orderbook

I doubt the 380 will in service in 20 years time.

As for a re-engine, only one airline, Emirates, was pushing for it. Airbus probably did listen but I'd say the costs of a re-engine programme were not going to be recouped in sales. Based on a prediction of total sales made a few years ago the 380 was never going to make money for Airbus, so throwing more good money after bad wasn't likely to happen.

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#2188112 27-Feb-2019 13:53

Technofreak:
nathan:

the plane will still be in service for 20-25-30 years, so no need for any disappointment, especially against an airline

If Airbus had listened to its customers and re-engine onto a more fuel efficient engine, they might still have orders in their orderbook

I doubt the 380 will in service in 20 years time.

As for a re-engine, only one airline, Emirates, was pushing for it. Airbus probably did listen but I'd say the costs of a re-engine programme were not going to be recouped in sales. Based on a prediction of total sales made a few years ago the 380 was never going to make money for Airbus, so throwing more good money after bad wasn't likely to happen.

Once Emirates are (virtually) the only A380 operator they will be able to do what they like as far as new gen engines go, as long as they are willing to bear the design, engineering and certification costs involved.
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#2188128 27-Feb-2019 14:31

Had it not been for production problems and delays in the B787 programme, there would have been many many B767s parked up long before their time! Something similar is happening with the A380 now.

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