Those dumb people trying to collect their cabin baggage on burning 777 airliner!!

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surfisup1000

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#199092 4-Aug-2016 09:20

Why do people behave like this?

There was a real risk of them being burned alive , yet , there they are , opening up the overhead lockers and collecting their stuff like it was just any other flight.

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#1604073 4-Aug-2016 09:41

Any airline staff on board in such a situation should simply direct passengers carrying luggage one way and those without luggage another way.

Those with luggage would be directed into the business/first class cabin to wait with other like-minded, self-important folk until the remaining passengers had disembarked.

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#1604075 4-Aug-2016 09:42

I saw that on the video this morning. FIrst thing I thought was - Whay are they bothering with the overhead lockers??

Still, didn't seem that they were getting off all that quickly anyway. I'd hat to be on a plane that I had to evacuate quickly - hard enough getting off when there is no panic.

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#1604078 4-Aug-2016 09:46

Panic makes one do silly things, they are not dumb chemicals are affecting their thought patterns.

Jonski

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#1604108 4-Aug-2016 10:07

Best I can tell, no announcements were made and it was several minutes before the doors were opened. Without clear instructions, panicked passengers were trying to follow a routine, which always involves taking your hand luggage to disembark. Essentially this was a vacuum activity.

Only later in the video, you can hear someone saying "Leave your bags, jump outside".

I was passing through DXB on Emirates 777's less than two weeks ago... I wonder how I would have behaved in this situation. I hope it would be better as I am an ex-aviator with a small amount of emergency training. But I had my family with me. Would I be pushing past people holding my children?

I'm the kind of person who cinches up my seatbelt good and tight for takeoff and landing. I think in future I'll have our passports close to hand during these cycles too, because that's the only thing I would grab before a rapid exit. Oh, and usually my camera SD cards are tucked in there too.

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#1604110 4-Aug-2016 10:09

MikeB4:

Panic makes one do silly things, they are not dumb chemicals are affecting their thought patterns.

This.

I've seen people do absurd things during extraordinary events. YouTube is full of these examples. Simply you can't be prepared 100%, and brain commands you to act "normal" but fails big time. That's why police, military, fire brigades, medics, etc train a lot.

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Fred99

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#1604121 4-Aug-2016 10:22

Probably somewhat justified fear for Indian migrant worker passengers contemplating (in an instant) the prospect of being marooned in an Arab country without documentation, personal belongings etc which may be in cabin baggage.

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#1604125 4-Aug-2016 10:29

They were probably worried they'd lose all their pokemon go scores/data or however it works.

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#1604127 4-Aug-2016 10:32

kobiak:

MikeB4:

Panic makes one do silly things, they are not dumb chemicals are affecting their thought patterns.

This.

I've seen people do absurd things during extraordinary events. YouTube is full of these examples. Simply you can't be prepared 100%, and brain commands you to act "normal" but fails big time. That's why police, military, fire brigades, medics, etc train a lot.

I watched a really good documentary on how to survive a disaster. They made the comment that in many cases people just stop thinking and go into a kind of slow motion. One guy who survived the Zeebrugge ferry disaster told of seeing people just standing there doing nothing while he escaped. The advice of the programme was, check all the exists and even walk them if you can. E.g. when you check into a hotel walk the escape route, don't just look at the map. When you brain is shutting down its faculties it will find it easier to take you where you have been before. One expert says he tries to avoid rooms more than 2 floors up.

I remember being in a stressful situation with a certain individual - her brain went haywire and she started panicking and making stupid decisions. I just took over and guided us to the right place. She's not particularly dumb, but just lost it.

I don't there is anything that I would need from my hand luggage that isn't replaceable. Emergency medicine might be worth the effort, in which case it makes sense to put it in the pocket in front of you from the start.

andrew027

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#1604200 4-Aug-2016 11:59

Some of them may have had small children in their carry on bags.

GeekGuy

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#1604273 4-Aug-2016 13:36

Years ago I was on a plane that was coming into land at New Delhi airport and there was a lady out of her seat, standing in the aisle talking to another person sitting down. As soon as the wheels hit the tarmac she went flying forward down the aisle and just grabbed the last seat at the last minute and sat down in it. She was that close to hitting the planes bulkhead.

I just shook my head and thought some people are just born dumb.

MikeAqua

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#1604277 4-Aug-2016 13:45

I always fly with my phone, wallet, keys and passport in my pocket. Just in case we have to evacuate. If nothing else, I may be easier to ID.

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#1604293 4-Aug-2016 13:53

UK 737 emergency: Is it time to lock down overhead bins?

Obsequious hypocrite

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#1604342 4-Aug-2016 15:04

It's a good case for mandating 'do not retrieve your baggage' in the safety briefing.

A stick figure attempts to retrieve baggage and blocks aisle causing stick figure pile up. Bad stick figure..

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#1604351 4-Aug-2016 15:18

gzt: It's a good case for mandating 'do not retrieve your baggage' in the safety briefing.

A stick figure attempts to retrieve baggage and blocks aisle causing stick figure pile up. Bad stick figure..

Or another 2 and a half minutes added to the Air NZ video.

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#1604371 4-Aug-2016 16:01

trig42:

I saw that on the video this morning. FIrst thing I thought was - Whay are they bothering with the overhead lockers??

Still, didn't seem that they were getting off all that quickly anyway. I'd hat to be on a plane that I had to evacuate quickly - hard enough getting off when there is no panic.

I can see that. "I can't get down the aisle because it's full of people. I might as well grab my valuables from the overhead locker while I wait".

It may also be that some of the overhead lockers popped open in the landing, and they're actually trying to shut them.

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