Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#2624283 19-Dec-2020 12:05

kingdragonfly: He pled guilty to lying to Congress, sentenced to a felony, but Trump pardoned him.

And just like Felon Dinesh D'Sousa, we have Felon Flynn - a pardon doesn't change the guilty verdict.

Felon forever.

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#2624284 19-Dec-2020 12:09

freitasm:

And just like Felon Dinesh D'Sousa, we have Felon Flynn - a pardon doesn't change the guilty verdict.

Felon forever.

You should start up a new web site - Felons Reunited

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#2624289 19-Dec-2020 12:26

And wait for the next tranche of pardons before Jan 20.

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#2624403 19-Dec-2020 18:11

quickymart:
Or how about this?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/us-election-general-michael-flynn-says-donald-trump-could-declare-martial-law-in-swing-states/HLXSYSJB5P6IZXN3NHHGVRQDAU/

"In this crucible moment of our time" [...] "in front of you during this crucible moment"

Looks like little Micky has learned a new word! Very good Mickey, you get a gold star sticker, and can sit at the front of the class.

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#2624410 19-Dec-2020 18:32

Or how about this?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/us-election-general-michael-flynn-says-donald-trump-could-declare-martial-law-in-swing-states/HLXSYSJB5P6IZXN3NHHGVRQDAU/

I must admit I had a laugh when I read him saying that, What a complete cock.

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#2624412 19-Dec-2020 18:38

Problem is, I can see Trump's minions lapping this drivel up like there's no tomorrow.

How many years does anyone reckon it's going to take before Trump finally stops banging on about election fraud, and the election being stolen from him - if ever? Or will he be spouting this crap until he dies? (God, I hope not)

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#2624506 19-Dec-2020 22:05

I'll be glad when 21 January (our time) is behind us. I've lived through 4 years of Trump, which is 28 years for humans.

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#2624554 20-Dec-2020 10:06

The Washing Post published a story "The inside story of how Trump’s denial, mismanagement and magical thinking led to the pandemic’s dark winter".

On Nov. 19, hours after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention advised against Thanksgiving travel, Vice President Pence, who chairs the coronavirus task force, agreed to hold a full news conference with some of the doctors — something they had not done since the summer. But much to the doctors’ dismay, Pence did not forcefully implore people to wear masks, nor did the administration take meaningful action on testing.

As for the president, he did not appear at all.

I think he’s just done with covid,” said one of Trump’s closest advisers who, like many others interviewed for this story, spoke on the condition of anonymity to candidly discuss internal deliberations and operations. “I think he put it on a timetable and he’s done with covid. . . . It just exceeded the amount of time he gave it.”

Now, a month later, the number of coronavirus cases in the United States is reaching records daily. The nation’s death count is rising steadily as well, this past week surpassing 300,000 — a total that had seemed unfathomable earlier this year. The dark winter is here, hospitalizations risk breaching capacities, and health professionals predict it will get worse before it gets better.

The catastrophe began with Trump’s initial refusal to take seriously the threat of a once-in-a-century pandemic. But, as officials detailed, it has been compounded over time by a host of damaging presidential traits — his skepticism of science, impatience with health restrictions, prioritization of personal politics over public safety, undisciplined communications, chaotic management style, indulgence of conspiracies, proclivity toward magical thinking, allowance of turf wars and flagrant disregard for the well-being of those around him.

“There isn’t a single light-switch moment where the government has screwed up and we’re going down the wrong path,” said Kyle McGowan, who resigned in August as chief of staff at the CDC under Redfield, the center’s director. “It was a series of multiple decisions that showed a lack of desire to listen to the actual scientists and also a lack of leadership in general, and that put us on this progression of where we’re at today.”

“Words matter a lot, and what we have here is a failure to communicate — and worse than that, the effective communication of policies, of myths, of confusion about masks, about hydroxychloroquine, about vaccines, about closures, about testing,” said Tom Frieden, a former CDC director in the Obama administration. “It’s stunning.”

Trump’s repeated downplaying of the virus, coupled with his equivocations about masks, created an opening for reckless behavior that contributed to a significant increase in infections and deaths, experts said.

“The central and most important thing we needed was national leadership from the president to be able to really lead with empathy,” said Anita Cicero, deputy director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. “It seemed much more focused on the administration as the lead character, rather than communities in need.”

A hallmark of the response has been the secrecy of some in the White House, including Meadows, whom other officials described as outright hostile in his denial of the virus and punitive toward colleagues who sought to follow public health guidelines or be transparent.

As the virus spread wildly among White House staff this fall, Meadows sought to conceal some cases from becoming public — including, at first, his own — and instructed at least one fellow adviser who sought to disclose an infection not to.

Olivia Troye, a former Pence adviser and task force aide who resigned in the summer and campaigned against Trump’s reelection, said the nation’s trauma is a result of the president’s mismanagement of the crisis early on, and is being prolonged by his disinterest in it now.

“I would love to say that I’m shocked, but I’m not,” Troye said. “This is in keeping with everything he has been.” She added: “People are still dying every day. There’s thousands of cases every day and yet he won’t do the right thing. . . . To see a sitting president directly refuse to help during a crisis is just flabbergasting to me.”

Paul A. Offit, who is director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, a professor of vaccinology at the University of Pennsylvania and a member of the FDA’s vaccine advisory council, said of Trump: “He’s a salesman, but this is something he can’t sell. So he just gave up. He gave up on trying to sell people something that was unsellable.”

Scum. All of them.

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#2624558 20-Dec-2020 10:12

Down the same article:

Kennedy said that Brad Smith, the director of the Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Services and a friend of Kushner, asked him and another volunteer to make a coronavirus model for 2020 that specifically projected a low casualty count. When Kennedy noted that he had no training in epidemiology and had never modeled a virus before, he recalled, Smith told him that it was just like making a financial model. The other models made by the health experts, Smith explained, were “too catastrophic.”

“‘They think 250,000 people could die and I want this model to show that fewer than 100,000 people will die in the worst-case scenario,’ ” Kennedy said Smith told him. “He gave us the numbers he wanted it to say.”

Kennedy and the other volunteer refused to make the model. But he said the incident left him discomfited.

“[Smith] said, ‘Look around. Does it look like 250,000 people are going to die? I don’t think so,’ ” Kennedy recounted. “And I remember thinking it was a weird thing to say because we were surrounded by military officers in the [Federal Emergency Management Agency] basement and it did look like a lot of people might die.”

Oh, FFS.

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#2624562 20-Dec-2020 10:27

He just doesn't stop:

Of course nobody "wants" lockdowns. Trump and "Trumpism" is pretty much genocide by inaction/incompetence.

If he'd taken it more seriously, the UK may not be in the deep sh*t it is now. Stupidity is globally contagious.

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#2624570 20-Dec-2020 11:19

"Twas The Coup Before Christmas"

The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

The little Late Show Elves have crafted another holiday cartoon classic, tailor-made for the steaming pile of joy that was 2020!