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  #2659280 18-Feb-2021 22:13
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Who would have known Infrastructure could be so difficult.

 

 

I've mentioned this before about, oh, 3,000 messages ago, but to see the real state of a country's economy and finances, look at its infrastructure, not the imaginary figures made up by the stock market. The first thing that gets cut when money's tight is maintenance of infrastructure. The US has been doing this since at least the 1990s, with thirty years of deferred (read: little to no) maintenance racked up. Some years ago I saw an estimate of something like $1.5 trillion dollars just to catch up on the deferred maintenance of roads and bridges, and then you've got power, water, rail, schools, and lots more. There's an awful lot of road and rail in the US that's genuine third-world standard, roads patched and potholed with dirt tracks next to them instead of footpaths, rails so worn and warped that you can't take a train down them at more than a snail's pace, etc.

 

 

So yes, infrastructure is really, really difficult if you're in Ethiopia or Burkina Faso or Angola or the USA.

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  #2659290 18-Feb-2021 22:51
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Even worse, infrastructure is only part of the story. Closure of municipal services like libraries in some urban areas. That one is not exactly a federal government problem, but it's a problem for the country so it's something congress needs to take a look at or peril.

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  #2659398 19-Feb-2021 09:00
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kingdragonfly: ...  Rush Limbaugh has died today. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

 

 


The Washington Post - Opinion - We wouldn’t have had President Trump without Rush Limbaugh

 

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Trumpism is all about the attitude.

 

It’s not about rational argumentation about policies. And it’s definitely not about compromising to solve problems or reaching across the aisle. That’s for “cucks” and “snowflakes.” No, Trumpism is all about “owning the libs.” ...

 

This is a style of politics perfected by Trump but invented by Rush Limbaugh, the pioneering radio talk-show host who died on Wednesday. 

 

Limbaugh was one of the most important political figures of the past 30 years - arguably the most important - because of how he transformed the conservative movement and the Republican Party for the worse.

 

It wasn’t just that he normalized racism, homophobia, nativism and sexism, giving all of those prejudices a national platform - although he did. He called a law student who advocated for health-care coverage of contraceptives a “slut.” He mocked the victims of AIDS, argued that immigrants are trying to “invade” the United States and remarked that “all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson.”

 

And it wasn’t just that he spread demented conspiracy theories - although he did. He suggested that White House lawyer Vince Foster was murdered and that the Clintons had something to do with it. He suggested that President Barack Obama wasn’t really born in the United States and was suspiciously partial to Islam. He suggested that Joe Biden hadn’t really won the 2020 election and that Trump had been a victim of voter fraud.

 

What really distinguished Limbaugh, and what made him such a success in radioland, was his gleeful hurling of insults and his mockery of liberals. “In the Limbaugh lexicon,” the New York Times noted, “advocates for the homeless were ‘compassion fascists,’ women who defended abortion rights were ‘feminazis,’ environmentalists were ‘tree-hugging wackos.’ ” ...

 

 








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  #2659425 19-Feb-2021 09:34
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America: a great place to visit but I wouldn’t want to live there.





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'A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.' Edward Abbey

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #2659435 19-Feb-2021 09:47
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  #2659523 19-Feb-2021 11:16
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If Trump runs again in 2024, can the Republican party turn around and say "no, we don't actually want you again"? Or if he wins the nomination, do they have to just suck it down and put him forward?


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  #2659805 19-Feb-2021 14:41
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If he runs, it's a win-win for the Democrats.

He'll bring the year-plus GOP nomination process into complete chaos

He'll save most of his venom for fellow GOP runners, no matter how minor

He'll likely split the GOP vote if he wins.

He'll likely discourage GOP voters to abstain from the future "rigged" nomination process.

He can't expect help on Twitter, Facebook, and now worm-food Rush Limbaugh.

There'll be no honeymoon period from the media inquiries.

And lastly, he'll make Bill Maher, Jimmy Kimmel, MSNBC, the New York Times, The Washington Post, Trevor Noah, Arnold Schwarzenegger , Nancy Pelosi and many others rich and popular.

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  #2659812 19-Feb-2021 14:53
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But - my thinking - he still has a fairly loyal fan base now. However a lot can change in 4 years; would they just hang around and wait for him? Or will they gradually dissipate?


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  #2659868 19-Feb-2021 15:14
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If Trump has a criminal record by 2024, he won't be allowed to run.

 

And a lot of prosecutions are pending ...

 

 

 





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  #2659870 19-Feb-2021 15:14
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Americans are famous throughout the world. for their attenuation-spans.

Wait I'm meant attention span.

Isn't "attention span" weird sounding... attention span... attention span.... attention span

What were we talking about?

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  #2659886 19-Feb-2021 15:49
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But - my thinking - he still has a fairly loyal fan base now. However a lot can change in 4 years; would they just hang around and wait for him? Or will they gradually dissipate?

 

 

Hes got his own stab-in-the-back legend now, complete with his own November criminals, so he can easily convey this into four years of building dissatisfaction with the status quo and then election victory. Worked just fine for these guys.

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  #2659890 19-Feb-2021 16:06
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kingdragonfly: Americans are famous throughout the world. for their attenuation-spans.

Wait I meant attention span.

Isn't "attention span" weird sounding... attention span... attention span.... attention span

What were we talking about?

 

If there's anyone who urgently needs attenuation, look no further than Pumpkinhead.

 

Attenuation: the reduction of the force, effect, or value of something.

 

 





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kingdragonfly: It's more common for the Democrats to be divided.

Republicans don't universally support him. A split Republican party is good.

As the boomers die off, and America has less less white male evangelicals, perhaps the US can change for the better.

 

Isn't that just a little bit racist, sexist and ageist?

 

 


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  #2659898 19-Feb-2021 16:22
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kingdragonfly: It's more common for the Democrats to be divided.

Republicans don't universally support him. A split Republican party is good.

As the boomers die off, and America has less less white male evangelicals, perhaps the US can change for the better.


Isn't that just a little bit racist, sexist and ageist?


 



Since I'm a white old male, I can say it.

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  #2659907 19-Feb-2021 16:58
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Isn't that just a little bit racist, sexist and ageist?

 



 Since I'm a white old male, I can say it.

 

Actually, it's also a bit religious-ist, which is a damn good thing. Thank Dog for rationalists and the wisdom of senior people 😜.





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