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#3266557 31-Jul-2024 13:35

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Washington insiders simulated a second Trump presidency. Can a role-play save democracy?

In a DC-area hotel, Democrats and Republicans met to wargame five scenarios they say are ‘not unrealistic’

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About 175 people participated in five exercises, bringing to the process an extraordinary wealth of bipartisan institutional knowledge. Among the lineup were senior officials from successive administrations of both parties, including the Trump administration.

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Keisler said that taking part in the exercise brought home to him how hard it would be to stop such a move: “It confirmed for me that for an authoritarian-minded president, deploying the military domestically could be one of the easiest and fastest levers of power that could be pulled, given how vaguely written the statute is.”

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At the end of the simulation, the consensus among many policy experts was that the blue team’s response felt weak and inadequate, with little agreement over message. “Blue has a catch-22 because they’re forces of normality, but all of this is not normal,” one participant said.

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President Biden deliveedr a sweeping indictment of the U.S. Supreme Court, calling its rulings “dangerous,” its ethics code “weak”
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I been looking forward to it and was worried he wouldn't include the "no US president gets special immunity"

I was also not surprised to hear Mike Johnson as Speaker call the bill DOA.

Its all so absurd they want to remove all those Govt workers just because Trump does not know how to work the system, because he is not a politician, we all know what he really is and they should not have Justices protecting him.

Smoking Joe Biden is no fool though, I wonder if now is the time to stir MTG into putting Johnson up for Speaker ejection which I believe would give the speaker to the Dems with only 1 congress seat the difference.

I just watched Harris in Atlanta. Dam her rallies are so fun and so loud they make Trump and JD look weak. People are genuinely LOUD with cheers and so far they all been packed. and its fun.

If its even now, I can see her post DNC being ahead by 5. She will pull all the young people no matter where they from, even good little Christians who like a bit of Hip Hop before hearing her talk.

Interesting hear her talk about walking the US border tunnels, to then prosecute them, yet all Trump does is talk big walls which wont fix the problem. Ladders, oxy torches, tunnels. She is also explaining what Trump did to "tank" the bipartisan border bill, which I think is good because most people wont know about it. Most swing votes in swing states dont know about Trump and Jan 6 ;-p.. Building the ones like in Finland coast to coast would help bankrupt the US for the next term after his, and speaking of;

Independent is saying in his latest interview, Trump is refusing to walk back the comments re not having to vote again in 4 years, it will be fixed.

First it was JD now him, is he trying to lose what looked like a landslide his way, but to the Dems.

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“It confirmed for me that for an authoritarian-minded president, deploying the military domestically could be one of the easiest and fastest levers of power that could be pulled, given how vaguely written the statute is.”

I think it is "Section F" of Proj25 they are most worried about that puts all the Civil Servants (replaced by 20k loyal maga's), the DOJ, FBI, CIA etc directly under the President. So he literally can have any order he wants done, executed, without fair of SCOTUS now.

46% of US so far are not educated enough to realise what they are voting away, not for.

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#3266656 31-Jul-2024 16:52

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ABC News USA: Fred Trump III calls uncle Donald Trump 'atomic crazy,' says he used racial slur decades ago

Fred Trump III, the nephew of former President Donald Trump, said his uncle is "atomic crazy," that he witnessed him using racial slurs decades ago -- and that he plans to vote for Kamala Harris.

The Trump way was to be "complex and sometimes cruel," Fred Trump said in an interview with ABC News' Aaron Katersky.

"And within every family -- people know this -- families are complicated. Every family has their crazy uncle. My Uncle Donald is atomic crazy. And … he has put his mark on the family history," he said, as he promoted his new book, "All in the Family: The Trumps and How We Got This Way."

Pressed to explain further, Fred Trump said it "means he does things that, even as much as I know him when he's out there now, I sort of shudder and say, 'Is this the same guy I knew? What's making him change? … What got him this way?'
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Fred Trump says he wrote the book in part to advocate for people with severe developmental disabilities, like his adult son William. He says this latest Trump family tell-all is not a political hit job, but rather the "full-on truth" about his uncle, who is the Republican nominee for president.
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#3266667 31-Jul-2024 17:17

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This is actually quite a funny read about Trump's week-just-gone: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trump-just-had-his-worst-week-ever-vance-harris 😄

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#3266669 31-Jul-2024 17:20

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Fred Trump III, the nephew of former President Donald Trump, said his uncle is "atomic crazy," that he witnessed him using racial slurs decades ago -- and that he plans to vote for Kamala Harris.
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Yeh I raised this the other day, because there has been no further mention of who holds the "N" word "apprentice" tape where he supposedly berates a contestant (not to them), using the word a fair bit but something like, do we really want a "N" ......

This guy has so much karma coming to him, he gets away with way too much.

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Regarding Project 2025. Is there no law that can be used to suppress sedition?

Not when the president is immune to everything and holds the pardon wand, no.

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Not when the president is immune to everything and holds the pardon wand, no.

even more when the controversy is the Justices who pushed beyond immunity are far right conservatives with one under investigation for not declaring some of his "known" $4m+ in gifts. also some of them owe their jobs to Trump from his last presidency. Hence Biden trying to make the SCOTUS less favorable/easily corupt, fair to all, and most importantly NO President should have presential immunity, it simply isnt needed if you a. act morally b. rely on your advisors (ie legal). But it wont get passed, unless Harris wins or some how Repub congress lose a couple and Dem take the Speaker role, as Johnson the current speaker (aka Maga Mike) is already calling it DOA

and then Trump, the guy that the constitution is effectively changed for after he took it to SCOTUS who gave him far more than he asked for, states (paraphrase) "you only have to vote once more, we will have it fixed" (love those christians, fine people, but Biden is a deeply christian man, sigh)

and then to make it worse last couple of days in interview, refused to walk back his statement.

whats worse, Trump is trying to distance himself from P2025, despite all the key guys in his admin are in it, and now the policy writer of its book is coming out, Trump's recent VP James Vance has written the forward for the book.

By the way I believe Vance was the least favorable VP pick in US history. Trump trying to double down on abortion bans and tearing up the constitution, has shot himself in the foot with him.

Harris now leads in 4 of the swing states (Michigan by +11) and one tied and Trump only leads in two (still within margin of error).

Long way to go, but she has energised the Dems, created new voters and is eating up the favorable ratings.

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The Guardian - Trump condemned for questioning Harris’s identity after ex-president lies repeatedly in heated interview with Black journalists

Summary of Trump's NABJ* interview

Donald Trump’s NABJ interview shocked the audience and ended up being cut short, apparently by his team.

Here are some of the things the former president claimed in the heated Q&A:

He claimed that he has been the “best president for the Black population since Abraham Lincoln”, adding that a “Black job” is “anybody that has a job”.
He questioned Kamala Harris’s ethnicity, saying: “She was always of Indian heritage, and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn’t know she was Black until a number of years ago, when she happened to turn Black.”
He refused to condemn the white police officer who shot and killed 36-year-old Sonya Massey, a Black woman, in her home in Illinois, saying: “Sometimes very bad decisions are made. They’re not made from an evil standpoint.”
He repeated the abortion lie that Democrats are allowing abortions in the ninth month, saying: “They’re allowing the death of the baby after the baby is born.”
In response to what he would do on his first day in office, he said that he would “close the border” and “drill, baby, drill”.

Throughout the interview, which appeared to have been ended by his team after 40 minutes, Trump’s responses drew multiple gasps and shouts from the crowd.

* NABJ = National Association of Black Journalists

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#3266756 1-Aug-2024 08:16

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Trump very recently: “No, I haven’t changed. Maybe I’ve gotten worse. Because I get angry at the incompetence that I witness every single day.”

TV Tropes: Surrounded by Idiots
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Sometimes, it seems like the lead antagonist has deliberately chosen the most incompetent, craven, cowardly, or just plain unreliable underlings around... the trope often culminates in a second-in-command that, instead of being the best of what the lower ranks has to offer, seems to be the living distillation of everything that makes the incompetent underlings what they are.

Of course, the simplest answer for why the evil master is surrounded by idiots is because you'd have to be stupid to work for him.
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Summary of Trump's NABJ* interview

I don't think I could watch that - the summary I read of it was bad enough. He seemed to do nothing but deflect and avoid the hard questions. I did have to laugh when he compared himself to Lincoln though. The orange buffoon couldn't even hold a candle to anything Lincoln did.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-interviewed-national-association-black-journalists-convention-chicago/story?id=112435331

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#3266767 1-Aug-2024 08:36

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Trump: “They’re allowing the death of the baby after the baby is born.”

This one is true. I expect I'll die and I was born. Gasp!

But Republicans loves babies when it's inside its vessel. Afterwards not so much.

In the US 30.4 million students can't afford their school meals. 96% of surveyed school districts reported an annual increase in the number of students who couldn't afford meals. Link

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#3266770 1-Aug-2024 08:43

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kingdragonfly: Trump very recently: “No, I haven’t changed. Maybe I’ve gotten worse. Because I get angry at the incompetence that I witness every single day.”

TV Tropes: Surrounded by Idiots
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Of course, the simplest answer for why the evil master is surrounded by idiots is because you'd have to be stupid to work for him.

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Or the Evil Master is afraid of a smart second in command overtaking him.

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The thing is; Trump isn't smart he's just cunning. Too cunning for his own and anyone elses good, but not smart enough to figure that out. Plus, I suspect, he is the useful idiot for a few people.

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Summary of Trump's NABJ* interview

I had been looking forward to it, Joy Reid had some of her usual young black journalists on her panel the night before talking about it (ie Eugene who writes for Politico). Im glad the interviewer put him on the spot straight up. Why should people play niceties.

More of Kamala being the border tzar rubbish. He is the failed border tzar.

He really has no social grace, political nous or just basic ability to read a room. It was quiet during some of the questions.

Both CNN and aBC have it up on YT now for full interview (circa 30mins, I watch most stuff in 1.75x)

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Sideface: Summary of Trump's NABJ* interview

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