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#2095659 24-Sep-2018 17:16

MikeB4:

Here is one totry a spouse is ........."has lived with another person in a marriage-like relationship" That shows up in multitudes of legal definitions.

I'm happy to chalk that one up to a genuine ambiguity then :-)

...I thought it exclusively meant "marriage partner".

Fred99

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#2095661 24-Sep-2018 17:21

6FIEND:

But I will continue to criticise her for continuing to appear to be inexperienced, incompetent, idealistic, reckless, and furtive.

Yet you've devoted several pages of this thread arguing about whether the use of "spouse" on Clarke's ID card was a scandal, and that the NYT correcting an article where they'd incorrectly used the term "husband" was evidence of something worth talking about, some kind of conspiracy?

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#2095664 24-Sep-2018 17:26

6FIEND:

MikeB4:

Here is one totry a spouse is ........."has lived with another person in a marriage-like relationship" That shows up in multitudes of legal definitions.

I'm happy to chalk that one up to a genuine ambiguity then :-)

...I thought it exclusively meant "marriage partner".

For several years I used that quoted definition in my work.

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#2095668 24-Sep-2018 17:32

"Scandal" and "conspiracy" are your words.

I was remarking that these (along with a number of other recent examples of Gayford being reported at Ardern's husband) don't really help the perception around Ardern's struggles with transparency and honesty.

Anything else that you'd like to falsely attribute to me today?

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#2095670 24-Sep-2018 17:38

Why cares (apart from a few fundamentalists) whether he is her 'husband' or not? He is her life partner and the father of her child. This is ridiculous thing to be making a big deal about. It is a non-issue.

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#2095671 24-Sep-2018 17:44

Rikkitic:

Why cares (apart from a few fundamentalists) whether he is her 'husband' or not? He is her life partner and the father of her child. This is ridiculous thing to be making a big deal about. It is a non-issue.

100% agree.

(In case it's still not entirely clear, my issue is with misrepresentation of their chosen arrangement. No the arrangement itself. And, as I said above, some of that was based on something that I'm happy to chalk up to ambiguity)

Fred99

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#2095694 24-Sep-2018 18:02

6FIEND:

In case it's still not entirely clear, my issue is with misrepresentation of their chosen arrangement.

Oh dear. Not by them.

So the NYT made a mistake and corrected it? So what? There's no story of "misrepresentation" from Ardern or Gayford.

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#2095700 24-Sep-2018 18:17

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12130905

Cost of banning exploration for Oil and Gas 7.9 BILLION Dollars.

Gee who knew that acting without consultation could be so expensive.. Oh wait...

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#2095707 24-Sep-2018 18:31

Benefit of banning oil and gas pollution: incalculable. Someone has to be the first.

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#2095718 24-Sep-2018 18:51

Rikkitic:

Benefit of banning oil and gas pollution: incalculable. Someone has to be the first.

You can be the first to do it and also not blindside an entire region. Like...the two aren't mutually exclusive.

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#2095719 24-Sep-2018 18:51

Fred99:
6FIEND:

In case it's still not entirely clear, my issue is with misrepresentation of their chosen arrangement.

Oh dear. Not by them.

So the NYT made a mistake and corrected it? So what? There's no story of "misrepresentation" from Ardern or Gayford.

There are plenty of other publications that are also misinformed...
https://www.dreshare.com/clarke-gayford-wiki-age-bio-net-worth/amp/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/clarke-gayford-shark-attack-new-zealand-first-bloke-jacinda-ardern-a8357456.html?amp

I would also consider the use of the term spouse to be misleading.

Sure, it’s not a scandal, but it adds to a picture of a PM who is more than happy to let people think one thing when the opposite is true when it suits her

Fred99

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#2095728 24-Sep-2018 19:02

Reciprocity:
Fred99:

6FIEND:

In case it's still not entirely clear, my issue is with misrepresentation of their chosen arrangement.

Oh dear. Not by them.

So the NYT made a mistake and corrected it? So what? There's no story of "misrepresentation" from Ardern or Gayford.

There are plenty of other publications that are also misinformed...
https://www.dreshare.com/clarke-gayford-wiki-age-bio-net-worth/amp/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/clarke-gayford-shark-attack-new-zealand-first-bloke-jacinda-ardern-a8357456.html?amp

I would also consider the use of the term spouse to be misleading.

Sure, it’s not a scandal, but it adds to a picture of a PM who is more than happy to let people think one thing when the opposite is true when it suits her

Wait. What!

Dreshare.com? WTF?

"it's not a scandal"? Let "the people" think what? The opposite of ????

This is about the most pathetic few pages of whining (about nothing at all) that I've ever witnessed on this forum.

Get a life.

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#2095735 24-Sep-2018 19:24

Are we suddenly back in Victorian England?

Fred99

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#2095753 24-Sep-2018 19:38

MikeB4: Are we suddenly back in Victorian England?

No - we're in the modern world of fake news and unsubstantiated personal attacks.

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#2095757 24-Sep-2018 19:51

Fred99:
6FIEND:

But I will continue to criticise her for continuing to appear to be inexperienced, incompetent, idealistic, reckless, and furtive.

Yet you've devoted several pages of this thread arguing about whether the use of "spouse" on Clarke's ID card was a scandal, and that the NYT correcting an article where they'd incorrectly used the term "husband" was evidence of something worth talking about, some kind of conspiracy?

It wouldn't be newsworthy except she's so damned set on being 'progressive' at the expense of everything else.

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