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#250679 21-May-2019 12:54
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Jacinda Ardern and Brexit

 

I started a new thread because the old Jacinda and Brexit threads are locked.

 

The New York Times - Jacinda Ardern Won’t Save You (abridged)

 

Opinion by Stephen Buranyi [a writer based in London.]

 

May 20, 2019

 


LONDON - The word most closely associated with Brexit at this point must surely be “disaster.”

 

But I’d bet on “fantasy” coming a close second.

 

Fantasy played a central role in the Leave campaign, of course, and as the years since the 2016 referendum have dragged on, the country has become ever more tolerant of it from all sides. ...

 

But the latest fantasy, emerging in the press and on social media as the politics around Brexit remain as deadlocked as ever and Prime Minister Theresa May founders before a Parliament that will neither pass her deal nor remove her from power, is to call for a competent foreign leader to take over the country.

 

Less “take back control” and more “why can’t someone else do it.”

 

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern of New Zealand is a popular candidate for the job.

 

Tony Blair’s former chief of staff wrote in The Guardian : “If the United Kingdom had been led by Ardern we might still have had Brexit, but we would not have ended up with this national humiliation, a divided society and an imperiled economy.

 

This was echoed by a columnist in The Mirror : “If only Theresa were more like Jacinda maybe we wouldn’t be in this mess,” before declaring, “If only we could get her.

Even a columnist in the Scottish Sun, a conservative paper, asked : “Can we adopt her? Please? Can we have her as Prime Minister, this living, smiling antidote to our own drippy, croaky, indecisive, soulless Theresa?

 

The desire spills out on social media, too.

 

I hesitate to recommend Twitter as useful for any sort of public sentiment analysis, but right now there are people - real people with children, best-selling books and magazine columns - imploring not just Ms. Ardern, or the similarly affable prime minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau, but Donald Tusk, a former prime minister of Poland and current president of the European Commission, to take over Britain.

 

The exact method of this potential coup is never discussed, because, of course, the people calling for it don’t actually mean it. But they do mean something.

 

This particular fantasy - a familiar foreign leader in competent managerial mode saving the country - is something entirely new, and not specific to Brexit. ...

 



 

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  #2242368 21-May-2019 14:43
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Even Australia wants her! Maybe our own right-wingers should appreciate her more. 

 

 





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  #2242372 21-May-2019 15:02
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If Putin was more like Ardern, then there wouldn't be a Brexit, and Trump would have remained a self-proclaimed billionaire, a crooked fat-fingered vulgarian - with harm limited mainly to the idiots who'd be greedy enough to want to do deals with him. 


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  #2242418 21-May-2019 15:27
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If Putin was more like Ardern, then there wouldn't be a Brexit ...

 







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  #2242446 21-May-2019 16:06
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Rikkitic:

Even Australia wants her! Maybe our own right-wingers should appreciate her more. 


 



I don’t think she has enough stardust to go around.
And Australia will have to get in the queue behind the United Nations.




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  #2242502 21-May-2019 17:18
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I'm sorry but I just don't think she could handle it.

 

I think she has done a reasonable job here dealing with the events in Christchurch but she is a lightweight. The political machinations and the press in the UK are a of a completely different magnitude than she has to deal with in this backwater that we live in.

 

When I moved here I tended to think that national politics here was about the same intensity as county politics in the UK and over the intervening years my view hasn't changed. Running NZ is about the same as running Hampshire.

 

It's one of the reasons I love the place.

 

 


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