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#100496 12-Apr-2012 12:59
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I am in process of trying to get this to work.

I want to know how I get the freeview hd channels via the sky dish to display. I seem to be able to find the SD channels but not the HD ones.

What satalite does it need to scan to find those?

Do I need to install the card readers and associated swg to get free hd channels?

I have a splitter off the existing feed one in two out will this work?

I just want to get one tuner working initially and take it from there.

Any assistance appreciated.


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  #608223 12-Apr-2012 13:18
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The freeview HD channels are encrypted so can only be viewed if you have a MySkyHDi sub with the correct Sky card.
You then need a card reader configured with all the right software to take the Sky card and decode the channels for you.




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  #608248 12-Apr-2012 14:08
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Ok thanks that explains why I donot see the channels in scan. I have skyhdi sub with multiroom.

I have card reader the omni card reader which is known to work with this sat card and running mediaportal.

I would appreciate help on what to do next to get mepo seeing the channels.

I am running mepo 1.2.2

Thanks

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  #608256 12-Apr-2012 14:25
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rickdry: Ok thanks that explains why I donot see the channels in scan. I have skyhdi sub with multiroom.

I have card reader the omni card reader which is known to work with this sat card and running mediaportal.

I would appreciate help on what to do next to get mepo seeing the channels.

I am running mepo 1.2.2

Thanks


Sounds exactly like the setup I'm running :)

If you do a scan in MP using the default Optus D1 satellite you will get pretty much all channels available.
You will see them listed in the channel list with a red icon instead of green showing that they are encrypted.
This will work without the card reader working yet.
Is that what you are seeing?
If you aren't seeing all the Sky channels listed then you need to check your satellite xml file.





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  #608261 12-Apr-2012 14:30
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Cool thanks for your help!!!!

Ok i am alittle confused.

I don't see channels in scan and have only installed the card. No reader yet, no MApdi or acam or any other stuff.

So are you saying next step is to see channels after a scan?

I see none so my xml is incorrect?

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  #608354 12-Apr-2012 16:51
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Yup you don't need anything else just yet, you should still be able to pick up all the channels, normal and encrypted, doing a scan in MP.
When doing a scan it should take quite a while and you should see it go through a number of transponders.
In the end there should be about 150 channels from memory. (That's TV and radio)




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  #608433 12-Apr-2012 19:19
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If you want me to connect in remotely to your HTPC and have a look I'm happy to do that.




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  #608438 12-Apr-2012 19:46
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I'm picking the LNB parameters are wrong. Most NZers need to use "advanced" scanning options and enable the LNB frequency overrides. The two most common combinations are:

11300
11300 (or 0)
12750 (or 0)

10750
10750 (or 0)
12750 (or 0)

If you don't know what your LNB parameters are then do an advanced single transponder scan with the following params:

Frequency = 12456000
Symbol rate = 22500
Polarisation = horizontal
Modulation = not set
Inner FEC rate = 3/4
Pilot = not set/not defined
Roll-off = not set/not defined

That is the first Freeview transponder.

If you've got a TBS6984 then you can enable DVB-S2 scanning.
I'd also recommend enabling channel movement detection.

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  #608626 13-Apr-2012 09:22
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Thanks guys that is awesome will give this a go over weekend i am pretty sure it needs the correct settings above as it finds nothing....

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  #609013 13-Apr-2012 21:00
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Stanard scan gives nothing however scanning as below as u suggest

10750
10750 (or 0)
12750 (or 0)

If you don't know what your LNB parameters are then do an advanced single transponder scan with the following params: Frequency = 12456000 Symbol rate = 22500 Polarisation = horizontal Modulation = not set Inner FEC rate = 3/4 Pilot = not set/not defined Roll-off = not set/not defined That is the first Freeview transponder. If you've got a TBS6984 then you can enable DVB-S2 scanning. I'd also recommend enabling channel movement detection. 

Scan as above and found freeview channels tried the seearch transpoder to get all channels on freeview.



Question is how do I get all the Sky channels and HD channels? 

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  #609015 13-Apr-2012 21:05
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OK so it sounds like those are your LNB settings - 10750 - so what happens if you do a full transponder scan and not a single transponder?




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  #609018 13-Apr-2012 21:08
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rickdry: Stanard scan gives nothing however scanning as below as u suggest

10750
10750 (or 0)
12750 (or 0)

If you don't know what your LNB parameters are then do an advanced single transponder scan with the following params: Frequency = 12456000 Symbol rate = 22500 Polarisation = horizontal Modulation = not set Inner FEC rate = 3/4 Pilot = not set/not defined Roll-off = not set/not defined That is the first Freeview transponder. If you've got a TBS6984 then you can enable DVB-S2 scanning. I'd also recommend enabling channel movement detection. 

Scan as above and found freeview channels tried the seearch transpoder to get all channels on freeview.



Question is how do I get all the Sky channels and HD channels? 


Okay, so you now know that those are your LNB parameters. To pick up all the channels:
- tick the first satellite row at the top, and untick the other three
- select "none" for DiSEqC
- don't worry about the band setting (you'll be overriding that)
- select the 160 E Optus D1 satellite
- tick the enable DVB-S2 option
- tick the enable channel movement detection option
- tick use advanced tuning options
- tick override LNB frequencies, and use the settings mentioned above (10750 etc.)
- select predefined provider scan
- click scan for channels



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  #609019 13-Apr-2012 21:12
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Side question: What does channel movement detection do?
I don't recall seeing that option in my TV Server, will need to have a look.




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  #609027 13-Apr-2012 21:26
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Awesome you the man got 113 odd channels from that plus 35 radio on top!!!


The Sky ones are in red.


So what next ;g

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  #609031 13-Apr-2012 21:35
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Now the fun part!
You need to get your card reader working with oscam and make sure it is configured and seeing the sky card OK.
Then you need to install mdapi and acamd so that MP will be able to view the encrypted channels.




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  #609033 13-Apr-2012 21:37
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CYaBro: Side question: What does channel movement detection do?
I don't recall seeing that option in my TV Server, will need to have a look.


Over in Europe some providers don't seem to follow DVB rules regarding unique identifiers for their channels. My understanding is that they're meant to use Original Network ID (ONID) + Service ID (SID). If they do that, then it is possible to follow channels as they move from transponder to transponder (hence the reference to channel movement). However in some cases ONID + SID is not unique, therefore we include the Transport Stream ID as well. All that is to say that it is preferable to enable the option - indeed it is necessary for Freeview HD here or you may end up with new versions of the TVNZ channels being found when you scan - however if you notice you are missing channels then we recommend scanning with the option disabled.

So what next ;g

It is as CYaBro said (assuming you have a Sky card that is compatible). I'm not going to be much help with this - don't have Sky, never used MDAPI or OSCAM/NewCS/etc.

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