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limegreen

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#101363 30-Apr-2012 14:12
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For the last few years, we've been quietly tolerating a significant amount of noise being output from our HTPC (details in sig). It's most noticeable when it's on but not outputting sound (some static when an HDD spins up etc.), though it is present all the time.

At the moment, we're just using the analogue line out to a high end 1980s vintage stereo amplifier. I'd previously assumed that we'd eventually upgrade the amplifier, and that might solve the problem, but I was wondering if the noise is actually being generated on the MoBo (whereas I'd originally thought it might have been to do with the age of the amp).

I see 4 possible options, in increasing cost order:
* Buy a separate multi-channel soundcard but just take analogue stereo out of that
* Buy a separate stereo soundcard and take analogue out of that, hopefully reducing the noise (downside: stereo soundcard more expensive than multi-channel card)
* Buy a separate DAC, and use digital out from MoBo* Buy a new amp and connect digitally

So I know it might seem semi-heretical, but we'd really be quite happy with just clear stereo output, and not too worried about the complete home theatre experience. We'd prefer to do it cheaply, and rather save pennies for new high-end speakers. This is all assuming that the noise is being introduced in the HTPC, rather than further down the line.

(FYI- have tried swapping out cables and speaker, and grounding amp to HTPC. Should probably have tried a different amp to verify that it is HTPC induced, but haven't done so yet).

Cheers!

[EDIT: Apparently I haven't posted enough for my sig to show anymore; relevant bit:
HTPC: Silverstone LC16-MR Silver, Corsair VX450W PSU, AMD X2 5200+, 2Gb RAM, Gigabyte MA-770 DS3 Mobo, ASUS 9400GT Silent, 1TB Western Digital HDD, 1TB Samsung EcoGreen, 1.5TB WD external; LG DVD Writer, Hauppage HVR2200, Hauppage T-500, 2xArtical Cooling PSD fans]




HTPC: Silverstone LC16-MR Silver, Corsair VX450W PSU, AMD X2 5200+, 2Gb RAM, Gigabyte MA-770 DS3 Mobo, ASUS 9400GT Silent, 1TB Western Digital HDD, 1TB Samsung EcoGreen, 1.5TB WD external; LG DVD Writer, Hauppage HVR2200, Hauppage T-500, 2xArtical Cooling PSD fans
Work: ASUS UL30A w/ 27" external 1080p LCD display
Workhorse: AMD 3600, 1Gb RAM
Phone: Samsung Galaxy S II on Telecom XT

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limegreen

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  #617445 30-Apr-2012 14:22
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In a helping myself sort of fashion, I've seen other people complaining of this with my particular MoBo (no solution), or suggesting Ferrite chokes.




HTPC: Silverstone LC16-MR Silver, Corsair VX450W PSU, AMD X2 5200+, 2Gb RAM, Gigabyte MA-770 DS3 Mobo, ASUS 9400GT Silent, 1TB Western Digital HDD, 1TB Samsung EcoGreen, 1.5TB WD external; LG DVD Writer, Hauppage HVR2200, Hauppage T-500, 2xArtical Cooling PSD fans
Work: ASUS UL30A w/ 27" external 1080p LCD display
Workhorse: AMD 3600, 1Gb RAM
Phone: Samsung Galaxy S II on Telecom XT



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  #617730 30-Apr-2012 23:06
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Onboard audio chipset's always seem to have lots of noise, particularly the older ones.

Entry level but fairly decent PCI sound cards are pretty cheap these days:

- Asus Xonar DG for <$50
- Creative Sound Blaster 5.1 VX <$40
- Creative Audigy Value <$70

limegreen

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  #618147 1-May-2012 23:03
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Thanks. The more I read, the more I am hopeful that this could be a simple and cheap solution to a problem (I just wish I'd thought of it 2+ years ago!). Now just trying to work out if spending a little more money might be nice in the long term (e.g. Xonar DS over DG).




HTPC: Silverstone LC16-MR Silver, Corsair VX450W PSU, AMD X2 5200+, 2Gb RAM, Gigabyte MA-770 DS3 Mobo, ASUS 9400GT Silent, 1TB Western Digital HDD, 1TB Samsung EcoGreen, 1.5TB WD external; LG DVD Writer, Hauppage HVR2200, Hauppage T-500, 2xArtical Cooling PSD fans
Work: ASUS UL30A w/ 27" external 1080p LCD display
Workhorse: AMD 3600, 1Gb RAM
Phone: Samsung Galaxy S II on Telecom XT



limegreen

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  #625760 15-May-2012 21:27
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I purchased the Asus Xonar XG, and really pleased with the increase in sound quality. However, it has not resolved the static issue (though it is perhaps quieter; placebo much?).
My next step I think has to be to try an entirely different sound system, and see if the noise is being introduced in the HTPC, or if it is in the audio system.




HTPC: Silverstone LC16-MR Silver, Corsair VX450W PSU, AMD X2 5200+, 2Gb RAM, Gigabyte MA-770 DS3 Mobo, ASUS 9400GT Silent, 1TB Western Digital HDD, 1TB Samsung EcoGreen, 1.5TB WD external; LG DVD Writer, Hauppage HVR2200, Hauppage T-500, 2xArtical Cooling PSD fans
Work: ASUS UL30A w/ 27" external 1080p LCD display
Workhorse: AMD 3600, 1Gb RAM
Phone: Samsung Galaxy S II on Telecom XT

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  #625825 15-May-2012 23:13
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Plugging some decent headphones into the soundcard and having a listen to some stuff would likely reveal any static coming from the htpc.

limegreen

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  #625827 15-May-2012 23:17
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Yeah unfortunately I only have some cheap bud earphones, but even that might be worth a shot. It's not like it's quiet static!

I am wondering if it is downstream from the HTPC though. I had the amp on various other channels (ie not AUX) and it was still coming through Yell




HTPC: Silverstone LC16-MR Silver, Corsair VX450W PSU, AMD X2 5200+, 2Gb RAM, Gigabyte MA-770 DS3 Mobo, ASUS 9400GT Silent, 1TB Western Digital HDD, 1TB Samsung EcoGreen, 1.5TB WD external; LG DVD Writer, Hauppage HVR2200, Hauppage T-500, 2xArtical Cooling PSD fans
Work: ASUS UL30A w/ 27" external 1080p LCD display
Workhorse: AMD 3600, 1Gb RAM
Phone: Samsung Galaxy S II on Telecom XT

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