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Topic # 148903 4-Jul-2014 17:14
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Is there any reason why a Sparky would not want to install these for me ? I'm tossing up if I should replace my current Down Lights.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/6w-9w-12w-15w-18w-20w-for-choice-High-quality-12w-panel-light-LED-2835-smd/1459619164.html

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  Reply # 1081085 4-Jul-2014 17:18
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If your house burns down and these are the cause will your insurance say "show me the NZ certification paperwork" and not pay out?

It's a dodgy looking auction ("you order 30W we send you 20W") and not approved for NZ. Suggest you buy NZ approved fittings. Sure $60 or so each is more expensive, but it's a damn site cheaper than insurance not paying out if it burns down.




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  Reply # 1081088 4-Jul-2014 17:21
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Mitre 10 were advertising some on tv for $40 each. NOt sure how good they are. but you can buy LED B22 or E27s for existing fittings for about $20. I have found panasonics to produce the best light. Philips are also quite good, but the light is a little greenish. If I was a sprky, I wouldn't install imported ones from china unless they are fully certificated for NZ.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1081090 4-Jul-2014 17:27
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I was thinking of getting some WiFi LED's that change colour ETC for my house.
Sorry to partially hijack but if anyone has similar experience to whether it can be done to code when buying from Ali express or if buy local certified goods.




 


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  Reply # 1081139 4-Jul-2014 19:12
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TimA: I was thinking of getting some WiFi LED's that change colour ETC for my house.
Sorry to partially hijack but if anyone has similar experience to whether it can be done to code when buying from Ali express or if buy local certified goods.


I bought some of the white and some of the colour ones that Limitless LED/wifilights.co.nz sell; but I bought them straight from the factory.




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  Reply # 1081143 4-Jul-2014 19:21
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The reason an electrician wouldn't install those for you is he would assume liability for them if your house burnt down or if you got an electric shock. He could loose his practicing license and face criminal prosecution. It's not exactly worth it for a sparky for you to save a few dollars.



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  Reply # 1081161 4-Jul-2014 19:42
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timmmay: If your house burns down and these are the cause will your insurance say "show me the NZ certification paperwork" and not pay out?

It's a dodgy looking auction ("you order 30W we send you 20W") and not approved for NZ. Suggest you buy NZ approved fittings. Sure $60 or so each is more expensive, but it's a damn site cheaper than insurance not paying out if it burns down.


How do you tell if they are NZ Certified ? 90% of the pictures on Ali Express are the same as the pictures on the Lighting Depot website.

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  Reply # 1081189 4-Jul-2014 20:28
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Also another question. Lighting Depot is selling one that has a built in driver, does this need to be installed by an Sparky ? If so, why ? All your doing is taking two wires from current light and putting same two wires on new light.


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  Reply # 1081193 4-Jul-2014 20:34
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http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2010/0036/latest/DLM2763779.html



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  Reply # 1081194 4-Jul-2014 20:38
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Handle9: http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2010/0036/latest/DLM2763779.html


Thanks. What a crock of .....

I'm perfectly capable of swapping out a light fitting.

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  Reply # 1081200 4-Jul-2014 20:48
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slliwgd:
Handle9: http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2010/0036/latest/DLM2763779.html


Thanks. What a crock of .....

I'm perfectly capable of swapping out a light fitting.


I'm sure these guys felt the same. You may well be but you need to understand the risks.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11285620



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  Reply # 1081202 4-Jul-2014 20:53
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Handle9: http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2010/0036/latest/DLM2763779.html


Thanks. What a crock of .....

I'm perfectly capable of swapping out a light fitting.


I'm sure these guys felt the same. You may well be but you need to understand the risks.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11285620


Yeah, I hear you. But those guys were doing the work on a third party property not their own.

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  Reply # 1081220 4-Jul-2014 21:44
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SaltyNZ:
TimA: I was thinking of getting some WiFi LED's that change colour ETC for my house.
Sorry to partially hijack but if anyone has similar experience to whether it can be done to code when buying from Ali express or if buy local certified goods.


I bought some of the white and some of the colour ones that Limitless LED/wifilights.co.nz sell; but I bought them straight from the factory.


Mr Salty. PM me your purchase place and ill get some too.
Plz ty thanx




 


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  Reply # 1081229 4-Jul-2014 22:31
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slliwgd:
timmmay: If your house burns down and these are the cause will your insurance say "show me the NZ certification paperwork" and not pay out?

It's a dodgy looking auction ("you order 30W we send you 20W") and not approved for NZ. Suggest you buy NZ approved fittings. Sure $60 or so each is more expensive, but it's a damn site cheaper than insurance not paying out if it burns down.


How do you tell if they are NZ Certified ? 90% of the pictures on Ali Express are the same as the pictures on the Lighting Depot website.


As you will be the importer of the downlights, its up to you to complete the SDOC paperwork which is required. Its been changed since I last looked into it, but the aliexpress seller may be able to provide the appropriate test results and certification you need to then declare the lights compliant.

All that seems like a lot of work when lighting plus has them so damn cheap now.




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  Reply # 1081240 4-Jul-2014 22:49
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slliwgd:
timmmay: If your house burns down and these are the cause will your insurance say "show me the NZ certification paperwork" and not pay out?

It's a dodgy looking auction ("you order 30W we send you 20W") and not approved for NZ. Suggest you buy NZ approved fittings. Sure $60 or so each is more expensive, but it's a damn site cheaper than insurance not paying out if it burns down.


How do you tell if they are NZ Certified ? 90% of the pictures on Ali Express are the same as the pictures on the Lighting Depot website.


As you will be the importer of the downlights, its up to you to complete the SDOC paperwork which is required. Its been changed since I last looked into it, but the aliexpress seller may be able to provide the appropriate test results and certification you need to then declare the lights compliant.

All that seems like a lot of work when lighting plus has them so damn cheap now.


Last time I went into a general lighting retailer about 6 months ago, the LED selection was very poor, infact they didn't even sell LED replacement B22 and E27 bulbs, just fluro energy savers. Those that they did have were expensive, and the cheaper ones were weak, and were better suited as stair and cabinet lights. We do pay a lot for them in NZ compared to the US. When I was over there they had far better selections and were substantially cheaper. But that seems to be with case with building materials in NZ.

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