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Topic # 161937 23-Jan-2015 20:07
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Hi All

Got a 16 bay enclosure which I need to full with 2tb hdd's.
freenas will be installed on the box.

Not sure what drives to use, I've been looking at WD Red 2tb drives but so expensive when you x it by 16.
The data is for home use and not mission critical, at the same time don't really want to lose the data.

Are there any decent yet cheap 2tb sata drives you can recommend?
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  Reply # 1221119 23-Jan-2015 20:58
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Why wouldn't you get fewer larger drives to start with.

4*6TB is probably a better bet to start with and leaves room for much more expansion in time.
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=22517

It's basically the same time and only 1/4 fills your nas allowing pleanty of future expansion when funds allow.

Also check the drives are approved as working in the NAS you purchased.
If you have a16 bay you've spent upward of $2k already ....




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  Reply # 1221123 23-Jan-2015 21:05
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HGST 4TB drives from Amazon are reasonable value. All 4TB drives are rated reliable so get the cheapest ones.




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  Reply # 1221127 23-Jan-2015 21:12
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WD reds - don't get anything less.
The "sweet spot" for price is the 3TB drive.
As already suggested, you could start with 4 or 8 HDDs - but personally I would buy 16 + 1 spare from the same batch




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  Reply # 1221128 23-Jan-2015 21:14
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Why from the same batch? Wouldn't that increase the likelihood of them all failing at around the same time, since they'd presumably be under similar usage patterns?

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  Reply # 1221133 23-Jan-2015 21:20
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Behodar: Why from the same batch? Wouldn't that increase the likelihood of them all failing at around the same time, since they'd presumably be under similar usage patterns?


If you get a good batch, they'll all be good.
If you get a bad batch (unlikely with Reds) they'll all fail early and be replaced under warranty.

PS  I'm currently using 24 WD Reds in 3 NAS enclosures - have had no problems with any of them - run quiet and cool.




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  Reply # 1221134 23-Jan-2015 21:21
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mentalinc: Why wouldn't you get fewer larger drives to start with.

4*6TB is probably a better bet to start with and leaves room for much more expansion in time.
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=22517

It's basically the same time and only 1/4 fills your nas allowing pleanty of future expansion when funds allow.

Also check the drives are approved as working in the NAS you purchased.
If you have a16 bay you've spent upward of $2k already ....


Thought of that, the motherboard only takes 32gb of ram ( which i have ). With freenas it recommends a minimum of 1tb per 1gb of ram.
I know hey, those 16bay enclosures are dam expensive....i paid $500 :)







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  Reply # 1221136 23-Jan-2015 21:23
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mmm would def like 3tb or 4tb drives.... anyone got them in a 16bay or 12bay enclosure with DSM/Synology installed?




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  Reply # 1221333 24-Jan-2015 12:46
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BinaryLimited: mmm would def like 3tb or 4tb drives.... anyone got them in a 16bay or 12bay enclosure with DSM/Synology installed?


I'm running a Synology Diskstation DS1813+ 8-bay NAS with 8 x 4TB WD Reds and 4GB RAM.
Running latest DSM 5.1-5022.

Runs quiet and cool and is very fast.




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  Reply # 1221334 24-Jan-2015 12:51
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BinaryLimited:
mentalinc: Why wouldn't you get fewer larger drives to start with.

4*6TB is probably a better bet to start with and leaves room for much more expansion in time.
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=22517

It's basically the same time and only 1/4 fills your nas allowing pleanty of future expansion when funds allow.

Also check the drives are approved as working in the NAS you purchased.
If you have a16 bay you've spent upward of $2k already ....


Thought of that, the motherboard only takes 32gb of ram ( which i have ). With freenas it recommends a minimum of 1tb per 1gb of ram.
I know hey, those 16bay enclosures are dam expensive....i paid $500 :)



Was it brand new?






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  Reply # 1222554 26-Jan-2015 16:55
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sonyxperiageek:
BinaryLimited:
mentalinc: Why wouldn't you get fewer larger drives to start with.

4*6TB is probably a better bet to start with and leaves room for much more expansion in time.
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=22517

It's basically the same time and only 1/4 fills your nas allowing pleanty of future expansion when funds allow.

Also check the drives are approved as working in the NAS you purchased.
If you have a16 bay you've spent upward of $2k already ....


Thought of that, the motherboard only takes 32gb of ram ( which i have ). With freenas it recommends a minimum of 1tb per 1gb of ram.
I know hey, those 16bay enclosures are dam expensive....i paid $500 :)



Was it brand new?


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  Reply # 1222563 26-Jan-2015 16:57
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BinaryLimited: mmm would def like 3tb or 4tb drives.... anyone got them in a 16bay or 12bay enclosure with DSM/Synology installed?


I'm running a Synology Diskstation DS1813+ 8-bay NAS with 8 x 4TB WD Reds and 4GB RAM.
Running latest DSM 5.1-5022.

Runs quiet and cool and is very fast.


What enclosure u using? Got a pic?
Had troubles with dam and my other 16bay enclosure, it only picked up some drives...configured some system files and it was fine...saw all the drives.

Then on reboot it would lose the drives :/




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  Reply # 1222640 26-Jan-2015 18:57
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A 16-bay enclosure for $500 is a stunningly good deal, even second hand.

I'm using three 6TB WD Reds in a RAID-5 configuration in an 8-bay enclosure, and so far they are running superbly. Good transfer speed, and very quiet.

Personally, I would go with 4-6TB drives rather than the (slightly cheaper per raw TB) 2TB drives. Fewer drives at the outset means lower noise and power consumption, and also leaves bays free for future expansion. Basic rule of computing (in my experience) - storage needs always grow beyond what you conceived you would need, and you never, ever, have enough. cool

I'm old enough to remember being excoriated by friends for wasting money on "stupidly massive capacity that no one could ever legitimately need in a home setup", when I dropped $880 on a then *massive* 40 megabyte drive in the 1980s. And when I put a 3GB drive in my new box in the early 90s. Now a 4TB external drive is insufficient........




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  Reply # 1222997 27-Jan-2015 09:23
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JimmyH: A 16-bay enclosure for $500 is a stunningly good deal, even second hand.

I'm using three 6TB WD Reds in a RAID-5 configuration in an 8-bay enclosure, and so far they are running superbly. Good transfer speed, and very quiet.

Personally, I would go with 4-6TB drives rather than the (slightly cheaper per raw TB) 2TB drives. Fewer drives at the outset means lower noise and power consumption, and also leaves bays free for future expansion. Basic rule of computing (in my experience) - storage needs always grow beyond what you conceived you would need, and you never, ever, have enough. cool

I'm old enough to remember being excoriated by friends for wasting money on "stupidly massive capacity that no one could ever legitimately need in a home setup", when I dropped $880 on a then *massive* 40 megabyte drive in the 1980s. And when I put a 3GB drive in my new box in the early 90s. Now a 4TB external drive is insufficient........



Indeed, a reliable geekzone user sold it to me, i beleive he still has servers and some other odd stuff left over.
I need to contemplate switching from freenas to DSM+ then....dont have enough ram for more than 32tb of data.

haha, i get that all the time..."what the hell do you need 32tb for...thats overkill" blah blah blah blah.






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  Reply # 1223050 27-Jan-2015 10:51
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BinaryLimited:  ... I get that all the time..."what the hell do you need 32tb for...thats overkill" blah blah blah blah.


32TB is never enough smile




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BinaryLimited:  ... I get that all the time..."what the hell do you need 32tb for...thats overkill" blah blah blah blah.


32TB is never enough smile


i know right!




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