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Topic # 239670 29-Jul-2018 11:12

Our house has two lounges on opposite sides of the building.

My MiL is being inflicted on me for 6 weeks - sorry - is visiting for 6 weeks later in the year and she seems to spend a huge majority of her day watching cr*p on TV. The main TV in the house is outside my office door and I absolutely do not want her sat out there all day disturbing me with her nonsense.

In the other lounge, adjacent to the room in which she will be sleeping, is our older Samsung plasma. It is not smart etc but does have HDMI.

We have a Sky box on the main TV and the dish is on our side of the building, as it were.

Whilst I can get Netflix etc to the other TV using Apple TV, Chromecast etc I can't work out how to get broadcast TV to that side of the house without additional wiring etc. and since the house is made of concrete blocks, additional wiring is never as straightforward as it sounds.

Is there a way to use the wifi to get broadcast TV? The MiL will more likely be wanting to watch soaps, game shows, etc than binge on Netflix.

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Reply # 2064477 29-Jul-2018 11:23

We use a HDHomerun to get free broadcast TV to other other parts of the house. Works well.

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Reply # 2064482 29-Jul-2018 11:27

The only way I know to get TV over wifi is using a HD-homrun or something simalar, you then will have to put a HTPC or Kodi box? to connect to the TV itself.

You could use one of these https://www.jaycar.co.nz/wireless-digital-audio-sender/p/AA2102

Plug that into a sky box or seperate STP and you have the MIL watching what she wants. If you connect to the sky box you both will have to watch the same channel.

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Reply # 2064486 29-Jul-2018 11:32

Why would you only want the audio??

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Reply # 2064496 29-Jul-2018 12:04

I though HDHomeruns didn't work with dishes ?

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Reply # 2064510 29-Jul-2018 12:23

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Geektastic:
Our house has two lounges on opposite sides of the building.

My MiL is being inflicted on me for 6 weeks - sorry - is visiting for 6 weeks later in the year and she seems to spend a huge majority of her day watching cr*p on TV. The main TV in the house is outside my office door and I absolutely do not want her sat out there all day disturbing me with her nonsense.

In the other lounge, adjacent to the room in which she will be sleeping, is our older Samsung plasma. It is not smart etc but does have HDMI.

We have a Sky box on the main TV and the dish is on our side of the building, as it were.

Whilst I can get Netflix etc to the other TV using Apple TV, Chromecast etc I can't work out how to get broadcast TV to that side of the house without additional wiring etc. and since the house is made of concrete blocks, additional wiring is never as straightforward as it sounds.

Is there a way to use the wifi to get broadcast TV? The MiL will more likely be wanting to watch soaps, game shows, etc than binge on Netflix.

Install the TVNZ and tv3 apps on your Apple TV, both stream live tv.

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Reply # 2064513 29-Jul-2018 12:33

The easiest way to get 'broadcast TV' (=Freeview) to other points without wiring is to buy a cheap Android box (around $40 on Aliexpress), install Kodi (free), add the ApsatTV IPTV streams to Simple IPTV client. You don't even need the Android box if you have a spare laptop since you can also install Kodi on Windows. It gets harder with a pc, though, since you need wi-fi and HDMI out.

This only works for Freeview, of course. It gets a lot harder if you also want Sky.

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Reply # 2064515 29-Jul-2018 12:36

The following is a partial copy of a post I put up on another thread a couple of weeks ago:

In terms of wireless transmission of the TV signal ... we use one of these

https://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Wireless-Digital-Channel-GW3DHDKIT/dp/B00630WKGI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1531843569&sr=8-1&keywords=Iogear

to get a Sky HD signal (i.e. including all FTA stuff) from our downstairs Sky box to a second TV upstairs in a situation where it is physically impossible to run an HDMI cable. It works exceptionally well. The set-up has HDMI pass-through so you can watch on your first TV and have it duplicated at the RX end.

The setup returns Sky remote commands back from upstairs to the box downstairs so we can control Sky from either upstairs or downstairs.

Not particularly cheap though - but such may be the cost of MIL avoidance.

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Reply # 2064719 29-Jul-2018 23:16

eracode:

The following is a partial copy of a post I put up on another thread a couple of weeks ago:

In terms of wireless transmission of the TV signal ... we use one of these

https://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Wireless-Digital-Channel-GW3DHDKIT/dp/B00630WKGI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1531843569&sr=8-1&keywords=Iogear

to get a Sky HD signal (i.e. including all FTA stuff) from our downstairs Sky box to a second TV upstairs in a situation where it is physically impossible to run an HDMI cable. It works exceptionally well. The set-up has HDMI pass-through so you can watch on your first TV and have it duplicated at the RX end.

The setup returns Sky remote commands back from upstairs to the box downstairs so we can control Sky from either upstairs or downstairs.

Not particularly cheap though - but such may be the cost of MIL avoidance.

That might work - and would be cheaper than three hots and a cot for 20 years....!

It says the range is 100ft in ideal conditions. I can't get line of sight as there are two walls and some distance between the two points that would need to be used for TX/RX; the walls are concrete block, so will shorten the range some. I will measure tomorrow and see roughly how many metres it is.

How far apart do you have the units?

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Reply # 2064771 30-Jul-2018 08:23

@Geektastic

TX is downstairs and the signal travel upwards through the floor at an angle of about 45° to the RX in the room above - straight-line distance is about 10-12 m.

My guess is that if your signal is traveling through the walls reasonably perpendicularly it would be ok. Perp travel might be only say 20 cm of concrete (and cavity air) to traverse per wall. However if it’s a long, shallow, oblique angle, the total material to traverse might be say 1-2 m of concrete and air cavity - if you know what I mean.

A trick might be to try and reduce the distance between the TX and RX by putting either or both of them at the end of HDMI cable/s - even though it might not be feasible to run a cable the whole way.

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Reply # 2064784 30-Jul-2018 09:06

Have you got any way of running a cable between the two rooms?

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Reply # 2064830 30-Jul-2018 10:13

If she trips over your camera gear she might break something and you'll be stuck with her for longer than 6 weeks. Sky Multiroom might seem cheap then. Don't they do free install? I don't know what minimum term they have if any.

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Reply # 2064838 30-Jul-2018 10:22

I would strongly suspect Apple TV is the way to go here. IME, MIL approval factor (MILAF?) starts from a pretty low bar. I would be more annoyed at being repeatedly asked how to change channel than overhearing daytime TV nonsense. Any other solution will almost certainly involve (at minimum) the willingness/ability to consider an additional remote control and follow instructions.

If you're on VF, VF TV might be another option but I suspect minimum terms would apply and it might be limited to fibre/cable areas.

Alternatively, consider soundproofing your office or the strategic deployment of headphones.

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Reply # 2064873 30-Jul-2018 11:22

If broadcast TV is just 1,2, Duke or 3 4 (threelife) or Bravo, you can live stream them via appleTV apps,

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Reply # 2064889 30-Jul-2018 11:41

Geektastic:

Whilst I can get Netflix etc to the other TV using Apple TV, Chromecast etc I can't work out how to get broadcast TV to that side of the house without additional wiring etc. and since the house is made of concrete blocks, additional wiring is never as straightforward as it sounds.

If you live close to a broadcast tower you can pick up an indoor UHF aerial for pretty cheap. That's what I did, as I have LOS to Sky Tower and Waiatarua, and an unknown third site (probably pine hill, but I'm not sure). Check Freeview's website for UHF coverage maps, and I'm assuming your non-smart tv is capable of receiving Freeview.