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Topic # 239925 11-Aug-2018 09:25

Needing a new HDMI cable my current in-wall cable is not cutting it. I'm now looking at this cable RUIPRO HDMI Fiber Cable 10m has anyone had any experience with these cables.

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Reply # 2071644 11-Aug-2018 09:55

What's not cutting it.

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Reply # 2071646 11-Aug-2018 10:01

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How can a cable not cut it? It's either working or not don't get sucked in by this HDMI cable is better cause of gold plated pins

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Reply # 2071647 11-Aug-2018 10:01

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HDMI is a digital signal. You'll get the exact same performance out of a $20 cable on Aliexpress or Ebay. Don't waste your money on an expensive cable.

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Reply # 2071711 11-Aug-2018 12:02

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I got one of these 10m Dynamix cables. Works perfectly at 4k60.

The cable is quite thick though, I'd guess 9 or 10mm and not that flexible so I don't know how suitable it would be for in-wall runs.

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Reply # 2071725 11-Aug-2018 13:22

They are not all the same, try putting 18 gigabit down the cheap one and it will either not work or you will get a crapload of sparkles on it.

Saying something works at 4k60 is meaninless if its doing 4:2:0 over it, that is nothing compared to the HDR modes.

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Reply # 2071840 11-Aug-2018 17:54

I haven't used the fibre hybrid cables, but I am firmly in the camp of 'buy it - forget about it'.

Fibre is the key!

I wouldn't run an HDMI over 7 meters, over that length I'd go with a HD-BaseT, but of course that's limited to around 13Gbs due to the restrictions of Cat cable... whereas fibre / copper hybrids can push more data down the pipe, are easy to run due to their slim cable and slippery jackets. What's more you don't have to add extra boxes or power plugs to an already crowded AV install.

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Reply # 2073533 14-Aug-2018 21:13

I have the Murideo Fresco Six-G and Six-A test combo which is able to test bandwidth errors by bit count and also find loss of signal limits.

So far I have found 1 10mr cable that did not send anything beyond 576i for which I suspect moisture damage internally.
I have found a number of longer than 5m cables(uncertain of lengths when buried in walls) which break down around 10Gbps, and I note they were typically specified as high speed 10gbs

This means the client max is 2160p @ 24hz 8bit 4:2:2 and sometimes 10bit. Sometimes when at the max the signal gets lost between devices and the EDID fails and or the HDCP fails and screen goes blank. I also find leaving devices on auto can sometimes help as they self test and find their own limit.

Note: 2160p@24Hz 4:4:4 10bit is calculated to be 11.14Gbps, this is why longer reaches break down when they are rated about 10Gbps. The 5m and shorter cables I have found to mostly ok, despite the 10Gbps rating.
I have heard from a hardware video processor developer that shorter than 1.5m cables can have problems, not for the cable but the devices as they can get swamped in signal that is being over powered from the source. But I haven't seen that myself yet.

One main problem for some, especially those whom are from gaming, struggle conceptually with movie material running at 24hz.
But I remind everyone, if the core material on the disk or source is at 24hz then send 24hz. This means you can up the bit depth which is far more important than hz/fps. The display does the Hz up-conversion, unless you have higher quality outboard processors. Higher bit depth means better gradations and less potential banding.

If the source is 50/60Hz, then you may be best to send native, however note the bit depth is native at 8bit and the chroma will be 4:2:0 to be under 10Gbps, Chroma at 4:2:2 or bit depth and it with be 17.82 Gbps. If you have handshake issues or other image oddities then you may be running into signal errors.

Also keep in mind plugs and sockets can wear, moisture and dust can corrode contacts plus gaming consoles have more working on the plugs and cables adding wear on contacts.

I have not tested any optical HDMI yet so can't comment on the OP choice.
All I say, run conduit, and Ethernet.

Note, the new HDMI over Ethernet devices can do HDMI 2.0 now up to 70m.

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Reply # 2075884 19-Aug-2018 18:40

4K and length is my problem.

Linux:

How can a cable not cut it? It's either working or not don't get sucked in by this HDMI cable is better cause of gold plated pins

John

The current cable is 6m in wall and + 1m from wall to receiver has no problem for 1080p, maybe the odd drop to a black screen for 2 seconds once or twice a week. But that could be the sky box, I don't see it on any other source.

michaelmurfy:

HDMI is a digital signal. You'll get the exact same performance out of a $20 cable on Aliexpress or Ebay. Don't waste your money on an expensive cable.

Sure for 1080p but 4k at 7 meters? as 4K is where my problem is. I wouldn't disagree with the cables doing the interconnect between the source and the receiver i'm using dirt cheap cables there.

My XBOX one X works fine for 1080p but wont switch to 4k (Bypassing receiver, before you ask) Works fine when connecting directly using a short cable.

Masterpiece:

Note, the new HDMI over Ethernet devices can do HDMI 2.0 now up to 70m.

Can you recommend a device?

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Reply # 2117897 1-Nov-2018 14:42

HI, I currently have HDBaseT solutions in my home; the main TV is only about a 15m run (ran the CAT6 cable and terminated myself - I did AV for a living)

I am currently experiencing constant issues with video dropping and staying off through my RX-A3060 and LG OLED65B7. I can get 4K and HDR working fine but am having constant HDCP handshake issues.

I will often be in the middle of watching a video and the HDMI handshake is dropping which means my video goes black and can hear the audio running.

I need to turn off my AVR and then turn it back on again to re-authenticate. This is very frustrating and tedious.

So now I am looking at getting the Ruipro hybrid fibre cable after reading the AVS forum test reports and this should also give me ARC for freeview. I will wait for the weekend because BF / CM and hopefully they will be on sale.

Did you end up getting one?

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Reply # 2117954 1-Nov-2018 15:40

Linux:

How can a cable not cut it? It's either working or not don't get sucked in by this HDMI cable is better cause of gold plated pins

John

Historically true for 1080p.

However, the bit rate for "4k 60p HDR 4:4:4 colorspace" pushes an 18gbps signal. Longer length HDMI cables (10m+) can have a lot of difficulty meeting that demand. Many advertise that they do, but they don't!

I am currently looking for a longer cable myself... the fibre optic hdmi cables are one solution, with all the required circuitry built into the plug. This is not just gold plated pins.

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Reply # 2117958 1-Nov-2018 15:41

fearandloathing:

Needing a new HDMI cable my current in-wall cable is not cutting it. I'm now looking at this cable RUIPRO HDMI Fiber Cable 10m has anyone had any experience with these cables.

Thanks

How about this?

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/CABUNI1031/Unitek-Y-C1031BK-30m-Ultrapro-HDMI-20-Fiber-Active

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Reply # 2137762 1-Dec-2018 14:16

UPDATE

For anyone interested:

After having constant drop outs (I presume HDCP sync issues) between my LG TV, Yamaha AV amp and Nvidia Shield TV; as well as audio drop outs from Freeview back to the amp (over optical return over CAT6) I bought the bullet and bought a Ruipro hybrid Fibre HDMI cable (20M) and it’s working flawlessly.
The AMP has ARC working finally and not 1 audio drop out so far. I am also able to get full 4Kp60 @ 4:2:2 rec bt.2020 [tested with Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk]. Switching between sources is also a lot snappier than before (probably those HDCP issues).

I could not recommend it more!
Don’t let anyone tell you that all HDMI cables are the same - they are only copy-pasting other misinformation from the internet and have not experienced the difficulties with mixing and matching brands and products with one another (especially 4K). It actually makes such a difference!

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Reply # 2137794 1-Dec-2018 15:55

Good to hear - in my experience it's seldom about the TV / source / AVR issues anymore. I believe a majority of issues are now coming from cabling (termination of Category cable OR a lack of understanding on how HD-BaseT functions)... or those who believe HDMI cables are still all 'made equal'. Oh how times have changed...