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#289710 24-Sep-2021 13:40
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I would find it beneficial to know if its worth buying the UHD version of a movie over the BR version, by knowing if the film was filmed in 4k.

 

Are there such websites which would freely list the the technical specs a film was filmed in?

 

 

 

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  #2783590 24-Sep-2021 13:44
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  #2783596 24-Sep-2021 13:53
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Unless you are talking about films pre 2010 or so, I would imagine every feature film is shot in 4K (or higher) 

 

In regard to older films,  35mm film is seen at least equivalent to 4K, so other than any vfx shots it shout be as good as 4K..

 

As to whether you can tell the difference when you watch at Home a lot of that will depend on what you are watching it on...

 

You probably need a fairly large panel for the difference between 2K ( BR) and 4K (UHD) to be visible to the average punter  


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OK, cool. So resolution, where upscaled means it wasn't filmed in 4k, but post processing makes it 4k.

 

Native, means filmed at 4k and thus a better representation of the quality when filmed?

 

 





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  #2783806 24-Sep-2021 18:45
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wellygary:

 

You probably need a fairly large panel for the difference between 2K ( BR) and 4K (UHD) to be visible to the average punter  

 

 

Large panel and sit real close.

 

Not an ipad.

 

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  #2783809 24-Sep-2021 18:50
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This list is incomplete, but it's a start. Many movies were filmed with 2.8k or 3.2k cameras.


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  #2783810 24-Sep-2021 18:51
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Shindig:

I would find it beneficial to know if its worth buying the UHD version of a movie over the BR version, by knowing if the film was filmed in 4k.


Are there such websites which would freely list the the technical specs a film was filmed in?


 


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I'm pretty sure no mainstream movie is shot in 4k

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I find that the biggest difference between a Standard Blu-ray and a 4K Disc/Stream version of the same film is the HDR. More so than the extra pixels attained. You will also find 4K Discs/Streams where the Digital Intermediate used was done at 2K and then upscaled to 4K(some people call it Fake 4K)for release. It may not sound ideal but check out Films like Pacific Rim,Aquaman and The Shallows to see how amazingly good a 2K "Upscale" can look. This site lists movies by title showing "Fake 4K" vs 4K when putting it to disc/Stream. https://www.digiraw.com/DVD-4K-Bluray-ripping-service/4K-UHD-ripping-service/the-real-or-fake-4K-list/  As the site says even old film shot at 35mm can be scanned at up to 6K Resolution. So that covers most films but depends on if the Studios want to spend the large amount it would cost to scan at that res?.   





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  #2785017 27-Sep-2021 15:30
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Batman:

I'm pretty sure no mainstream movie is shot in 4k

 

 

 

Ahhh - nope:

 

 

The (Arri) Alexa is the dominant camera in the professional film industry, and was used as the primary system on over 70% of the top 100 grossing films since 2016.

 

 

Most of those cameras are "4k" but it isn't a standard like "UHD" 3840 x 2160.  "Round about" 4000 horizontal pixels is 4k.


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  #2785019 27-Sep-2021 15:36
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wellygary:

 

In regard to older films,  35mm film is seen at least equivalent to 4K, so other than any vfx shots it shout be as good as 4K..

 

 

My old eyes tell me different.  Don't forget that 35mm movie is landscape format across the film width so it's less than half the frame area of 35mm still format (36x24mm), plus they won't be using the slowest fine grained film.


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IMO it's kind-of a moot point; the resolution ultimately has little to do with the quality of the post-processing/mastering. It's the same thing with audio really.

 

Newer big budget films typically use high-quality upscaling, but re-releases of older material can vary in quality; the best results are re-scans if they were originally shot on film, but some studios just phone it in with a poor upscaling and "HDR" touch-up of an earlier release, which may have been of middling quality itself.

 

As others have said, movies shot on digital cameras might be shot in higher resolution, but then use a lower resolution digital intermediate due to CGI effects, as budget/processing time-frame means CGI is often rendered at 2k. As above, the upscale back to 4k is typically done by a dedicated professional, so not quite the same as your TV trying to upscale your DVDs.

 

The resolution bump is just one small part of why it might be worth getting a UHD Blu-ray release over regular Blu-ray: color depth + HDR + WCG + lossless audio are typically more of a selling point IMO.


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  #2786347 29-Sep-2021 14:24
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ShinyChrome:

 

The resolution bump is just one small part of why it might be worth getting a UHD Blu-ray release over regular Blu-ray: color depth + HDR + WCG + lossless audio are typically more of a selling point IMO.

 

 

And sound...

 

Many UHD releases have Atmos soundtracks missing from the BD release.

 

Albeit BD varies from market to market, NZ seems to miss out a lot,

 

Eg. the John Wick films on BD had Atmos in the USA and EU/UK, no such treat for NZ buyers  :(


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