Selecting between recording SD and HD

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#33780 12-May-2009 08:36

OK I will write this out again after the post loosing itself yesterday.

So I am now running Windows 7 RC and am loving it. I have sources from DVB-T, DVB-S and Telstra Digital via s-video. 90% of the time I am quite happy to record stuff from DVB-S but I know for some things it would be nice to record from DVB-T.

I seem to remember mention when Windows 7 was first talked about that it was possible to specify SD or HD for the recording but I have not been able to find anything obvious. I have setup typical channel that is present on all sources as below.

In order
TV2
DVB-T Freeview|HD Tuner 1 on HVR-2200
DVB-S Freeview HVR-3000 card 1
DVB-S Freeview HVR-3000 card 2
Telstra STB Tuner 2 on HVR-2200 via s-video [UNTICKED]

Watching TV uses DVB-T as it should and recording uses DVB-S 2 and then 1 if recording two channels.

Am I missing something simple?

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#214589 13-May-2009 11:41

I would kinda like to know the same, except I have a nova-t 500 (dual dvb-t tuner) and a pvr500 (dual analogue).

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#214597 13-May-2009 12:35

I'm not at my HTPC at the moment but I remember there was an option in the series recording section that specified whether or not you wanted to record SD or HD. Not sure if this is still present in 7100 as I always record HD (if available).

I don't know how 7MC would tell the difference between SD and HD though? I would guess it would have to reference the EPG somehow, so that info is only as good as your EPG source.

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#214617 13-May-2009 13:53

HD content needs to be flagged as HD in the guide data. Unfortunately the Freeview EIT data does not contain that info.

Nety, how did you go with using BSE to manually flag the channels?

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#214621 13-May-2009 14:07

rhysb: HD content needs to be flagged as HD in the guide data. Unfortunately the Freeview EIT data does not contain that info.

It is flagged in the freeview MHEG-5 based EPG.

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#214628 13-May-2009 14:35

openmedia: It is flagged in the freeview MHEG-5 based EPG.

Ha ha, yeah. Not much use for 7MC though eh. :-)

May be someone can write a MHEG5 guide->xml extractor.

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#214637 13-May-2009 15:24

rhysb:
Nety, how did you go with using BSE to manually flag the channels?

Have not had a reply back on how to set it up yet. Might have a play in the weekend.

However I discovered something today. It is recording the HD shows not the SD shows by default.

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#215152 15-May-2009 22:18

Well I sorted it (kind of) by going the other way. I have hooked up DVB-T to the 3000's and the 2200 which gives me 4 sources for DVB-T although one is shared with the Telstra analogue feed plus the two DVB-S feeds (shared with the 3000's DVB-T) but basically now almost all our recording will be from Freeview|HD :-)

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#215554 18-May-2009 10:58

Hey there,

by default media center prefers digital over analog and HD over SD.

Yes the flag for HD is the isHdTv on the ScheduleEntry element. So the guide listings identify which airings of a program are HD.

I cant remember off the the top of my head if there's HD information extracted in the listings that are obtained from the DVB transmission.

One random suggestion would be to split the DVB-T out of the channel sources into their separate channel. Then when you record from that DVB-T, the scheduler will by default only record from the channel you set up the recording on. You can split channels apart in tasks->settings->tv->guide->edit channels->select the channel->edit sources->split. You can combine two channels together in tasks->settings->tv->guide->edit channels->select the channel->edit listings->choose the channel to combine into->choose the combine option.

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#215636 18-May-2009 16:27

Hi -

If you're using BSE - you can flag entire XMLTV source channels as being HD - and then the isHDtv flag will be set on all schedule entries coming in for that service in Media Center (resulting in the HD icon being displayed in your EPG). Alternatively the XMLTV / elements can also be used to nominate individual shows as being HD.

I'm pretty sure in Australian EIT/DVB-T - we didn't get any HD icons coming up by default - not sure what the case is for NZ.

Also - for scheduling the HD versions of the shows (instead of SD) - in Australia we'd simply schedule the series/onetime request from the HD EPG listing (so the preffered channel is the HD one - even if it had 'Any Channel' in the settings).

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#215644 18-May-2009 16:58

rhysb:
openmedia: It is flagged in the freeview MHEG-5 based EPG.

Ha ha, yeah. Not much use for 7MC though eh. :-)

May be someone can write a MHEG5 guide->xml extractor.

No need. Just use the XML files from the Freeview site for your EPG source. These have the HD flag enabled in them so contain the same info.