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Topic # 59268 31-Mar-2010 11:55
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Awhile ago I purchased the LG 42 inch model in the subject line, its a full HD tv with a freeview tuner built in, which is all good, but after bringing it home I discovered there was no video out anywhere. What I would like to do is record a few programs when I am at work at night, but this seems impossible unless someone knows how to set it up. My recorder is the Panasonic DMR-EH58 which only has an analog tuner.  Any ideas, or am I stuck with having to buy a separate Freeview HD box?

Specs etc for TV are here: http://www.lg.com/au/tv-audio-video/televisions/LG-lcd-tv-42LH35FD.jsp

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  Reply # 313450 31-Mar-2010 12:24
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Having video "outs" on TVs is not all that common, even for analog, but they are almost unheard of for DTT receivers.

+ To record on an analog device you would have had to find a way to "book" programmes, and alter the output channel to switch to each programme you want to watch.

You will either need a Digital STB which allows programme booking  (or a Digital PVR)

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  Reply # 313485 31-Mar-2010 14:33
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Video/monitor out is very rare on flat screen TV's now. The odd one has it but it's certainly an exception rather than the norm.

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  Reply # 313488 31-Mar-2010 14:50
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semigeek: Any ideas, or am I stuck with having to buy a separate Freeview HD box?


Pretty much yes...
Aerial [coax cable] PVR [hdmi cable] TV

PVR (personal video recorder) could be a HTPC (home thearte pc) running mediaportal or windows media center, a tivo box, mysky and standalone set top box device (STB).

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  Reply # 313592 31-Mar-2010 19:34
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It's a common issue with a lot of people I've talked to.
The annoying thing is... terrestrial STB's cost more than satellite receivers.

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  Reply # 314189 2-Apr-2010 16:18
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Dunnersfella: It's a common issue with a lot of people I've talked to.
The annoying thing is... terrestrial STB's cost more than satellite receivers.


$300 (DVB-T) vs $100 (DVB-S).  Since the panasonic recorder will only record SD anyhow you could get away with a satellite stb if you already have a dish on your house (like an old Sky one).  But if you need a dish as well then the cost is heading towards the terrestrial option.

Just out of interest I have a Strong satellite STB that takes a USB external harddrive thereby giving PVR operation including EPG so no need to hook up to the panasonic unless I want to archive a program to DVD for later viewing (and deletion to avoid any copyright issues).




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  Reply # 314334 3-Apr-2010 02:54
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Its not just a video out socket - as those did exist up till digital tuners became the norm - I am guessing they elimited them so that this situation didnt come up.

They would also need a scaler, frame rate converter, PAL encoder, VBI inserter etc to make it work as people would expect. Adds to the cost and complexity of it for a small percentage of the purchasers who would want to try, and would erode the market for their recording devices.

Also you would have to leave the TV running and on the channel you wanted.

some TVs in the UK have had HDD recorders in them off the digital tuner, may see that happen sometime soon or provision for a USB drive on the tvs with the otherwise pretty pointless USB socket on them. Other than that a magic tv or similar is your best bet IMO. Forget satillite boxes with USB, once you have HD you wont be wanting to watch that low bitrate SD crap.




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  Reply # 314340 3-Apr-2010 08:13
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Dingbatt:
Dunnersfella: It's a common issue with a lot of people I've talked to.
The annoying thing is... terrestrial STB's cost more than satellite receivers.


$300 (DVB-T) vs $100 (DVB-S). 



The entry level pricepoint for DVB-T boxes has been $199 for ~6 months now with the Sanyo boxes.

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  Reply # 317973 13-Apr-2010 18:37
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What about those $100-$200 HD settop boxes that i keep seeing on trademe that apparently have a PVR feature when combined with a USB HDD?

Anybody got one?

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