CYaBro:

 

Works ok on a Northpower fibre connection?

 

Yes.

Batman:

 

i'm on spark, which one is better, DHCP or PPPOE?

 

For most people there really isn't too much difference.  Some users out there may have specific needs that suit one better than the other, but they will be very much the minority.

cbrpilot:

 

Batman:

 

i'm on spark, which one is better, DHCP or PPPOE?

 

 

For most people there really isn't too much difference.  Some users out there may have specific needs that suit one better than the other, but they will be very much the minority.

 

My TP-Link router doesn't have DHCP, is it the same as Dynamic IP?

@Batman the D in DHCP means dynamic. It's the same thing.

Changing to DHCP went smoothly on Grandstream GWN7001.

Took about 7 minutes to come back up and everything works perfectly.

MaxineN:

 

Ehhh you don't need DHCP for XPON. It does help if your CPE is incapable of routing that much on PPPOE.

 

Not sure what the end to end support ended up being for full 1500 byte MTU on PPP across providers but DHCP lets you start anew with a more pure internet experience without unnecessary legacy telco interfaces 😄

Can't remember whether Spark supported mini jumbo 1500 byte IPv4 MTU over PPPoE?

Talk about coincidence, bored at work today a random thought crossed my mind “I wonder when spark will support dhcp” and this thread pops up.

What a pleasant surprise 👍🏻

ipv6 must be coming soon then? :)

w00t

cbrpilot:

 

Batman:

 

i'm on spark, which one is better, DHCP or PPPOE?

 

 

For most people there really isn't too much difference.  Some users out there may have specific needs that suit one better than the other, but they will be very much the minority.

 

sorry for another dumb question, which one is better for gaming? server is in Sydney i think

Batman:

 

i'm on spark, which one is better, DHCP or PPPOE?

 

most routers can run PPPoE at 1gbps but PPPoE on most routers can only run on a single core of the router

So, when you move past 1gbps aka Hypefibre 2gbps and 4gbps then PPPoE is no longer really viable on a single core

the big advantage of PPPoE is the quick reconnect if there are BNG changes, DHCP the connection is down until the lease renews

RunningMan:

 

@Batman the D in DHCP means dynamic. It's the same thing.

 

Some routers show Automatic IP (Spark SM3) for DHCP.

From what I have read:

PPPoE is more secure than DHCP.

PPPoE has more overhead than DHCP.

DHCP has a slightly greater throughput in a very high data rate environment.

DHCP is easier to set up as it does not require credentials.

The average user would not notice any difference between the two.

Gordy7:

 

PPPoE is more secure than DHCP.

 

Wrong there is no difference, the authentication is done by ASID

Gordy7:

 

PPPoE has more overhead than DHCP.

 

DHCP has a slightly greater throughput in a very high data rate environment.

 

Correct

Gordy7:

 

DHCP is easier to set up as it does not require credentials.

 

The average user would not notice any difference between the two.

 

Correct, however on Hyperfibre connections it will very much be noticeable 

Batman:

 

sorry for another dumb question, which one is better for gaming? server is in Sydney i think

 

No problem.  The answer is that it will make no difference at all. 

Gordy7:

 

PPPoE is more secure than DHCP.

 

I can understand why in some networks this original statement could apply, but in Spark's network they are completely equivalent from an authentication and authorisation point of view.  I.e. security is not a reason to pick one over the other.

Gordy7:

 

PPPoE has more overhead than DHCP.

 

DHCP has a slightly greater throughput in a very high data rate environment.

 

Just to give an indication here, our testing indicates that DHCP provides about 1% better throughput than PPP for the same plan.  I.e. negligible difference. 

As someone else has mentioned in this thread you will occasionally come across some older routers that don't have the grunt to do high speeds with PPP - but this is rare and becoming rarer as for most modern routers this is just not an issue.  All Spark provided routers can do Fibre Max speeds with PPP without issue.

Gordy7:

 

DHCP is easier to set up as it does not require credentials.

 

The average user would not notice any difference between the two.

 

All Spark provided modems should be plug and play - even though they use PPP.  For a 3rd party routers YMMV.  That said the biggest growth we see in DHCP connections is from customers connecting to Spark with a 3rd party router and coming up with DHCP.  I very much doubt those customers are aware of which protocol their router is set to use - it just works - and that is the way it should be.

And agree that your average user will notice no difference with PPP vs DHCP.