Big Time plan removal

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Ultimate Geek
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#332209 20-May-2010 10:55

k1wi: Anyone in a household that is sharing a single broadband connection with a datacap between more than a single user/computer should consider reading this article:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3715/family-proxy

You will notice a significant reduction, particularly in your HTTP traffic or any software updates you undertake across more than one PC.

I've got a transparent squid proxy setup at home, it's not a saving grace by any means given most web content is dynamic

Stat's from this mornings calamaris:

# Incoming TCP-requests by status
status request % sec/req Byte % kB/sec
------------------------------ --------- ------ ------- -------- ------ -------
HIT 1595 9.62 0.04 34783245 1.25 583.10
TCP_HIT 759 4.58 0.05 31342266 1.13 798.93
TCP_IMS_HIT 475 2.86 0.02 200549 0.01 18.73
TCP_MEM_HIT 292 1.76 0.02 3215698 0.12 453.41
TCP_NEGATIVE_HIT 69 0.42 0.04 24732 0.00 9.44
MISS 14976 90.28 1.84 2686524K 98.75 97.30
TCP_MISS 14761 88.99 1.86 2681480K 98.56 97.64
TCP_REFRESH_UNMODIFIED 179 1.08 0.47 3718430 0.13 43.03
TCP_REFRESH_MODIFIED 25 0.15 1.45 325181 0.01 8.75
TCP_CLIENT_REFRESH_MISS 11 0.07 2.64 1121128 0.04 37.74
ERROR 17 0.10 0.01 35772 0.00 399.70
NONE 16 0.10 0.00 33324 0.00 1595.24
TCP_MISS 1 0.01 0.07 2448 0.00 35.68
------------------------------ --------- ------ ------- -------- ------ -------
Sum 16588 100.00 1.67 2720527K 100.00 98.32

Getting close to 10% hit rate

And my refresh patterns fyi

refresh_pattern ^ftp: 144000 20% 1008000
refresh_pattern -i \.(gif|png|jpg|jpeg|ico|bmp)$ 260000 90% 260009 override-expire
refresh_pattern -i \.(iso|avi|wav|mp3|mp4|mpeg|swf|flv|x-flv|mpg|wma|ogg|wmv|asx|asf)$ 260000 90% 260009 override-expire
refresh_pattern -i \.(deb|rpm|exe|zip|tar|tgz|ram|rar|bin|ppt|doc|tiff|pdf|uxx)$ 260000 90% 260009 override-expire
refresh_pattern -i \.index.(html|htm)$ 1440 90% 40320
refresh_pattern -i \.(html|htm|css|js)$ 1440 90% 40320
refresh_pattern (cgi-bin|\?) 0 0% 0
refresh_pattern . 0 20% 4320

Crucius

55 posts

Master Geek

#332210 20-May-2010 10:56

So our flats plan is to just remain on the plan for as long as possible, and see what Telecom (and possibly any other providers) offer as a replacement.

In the mean time, what are other people planning on doing? What was your usage, and what isp/plan are you switching to?

Flashcards

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Master Geek

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flashcards.co.nz

#332211 20-May-2010 10:59

Crucius: So our flats plan is to just remain on the plan for as long as possible, and see what Telecom (and possibly any other providers) offer as a replacement.

In the mean time, what are other people planning on doing? What was your usage, and what isp/plan are you switching to?

That is just the point - there is not a single plan in NZ - from any ISP - that suits many of us....

Shock

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Ultimate Geek

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#332215 20-May-2010 11:04

doozy: as I've mentioned the only change I can share at this stage is Pro overage being reduced from $20 per GB to $2 which will happen in July

This is good news, kudos to you. The reason we moved from Pro to Big Time was because of the previous charges.

Connecting to UFB? Go with Bigpipe and use this link for free credit!

Crucius

55 posts

Master Geek

#332217 20-May-2010 11:06

The best looking plan at the moment (for our flat) is Orcon's purple plan with a 101gb cap for $150/month, phone rental included. Only a $30/month increase, and I think our flat can manage to drop our usage to that much.

Kilack

527 posts

Ultimate Geek

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#332218 20-May-2010 11:06

doozy:
Timdotz: My family too has been without cap since Go-large was out, now we have 5+ users at my home using 120GB a month, and none of other plans being offered seems to cut it.

My question is: Will the current Big Time users be kicked off the plan if they do not leave?

The reality of removing a plan means yes, eventually we have to close it down completely, you will receive a letter from us which will outline the exit plan, it will give you (at least) 30 days notice.

30 days... that isn't going to give me much time to backup the internet....

Crucius

55 posts

Master Geek

#332225 20-May-2010 11:15

Doozy: What is going to happen to traffic management in the meantime? Will it be:
turned off, kept as it is now (no more tweaking), or will you continue to tweak it until the end?

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wreck90

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Ultimate Geek
Inactive user

#332226 20-May-2010 11:16

How about a 'big time' plan, which is managed and throttles to a usable speed after 100gig?

By usable, when my adventurer plan is throttled, it is bordering on unusable . Even dial up seems to work better than throttled adventurer although the speed is supposed to be the same.

ArranH

161 posts

Master Geek

#332230 20-May-2010 11:25

sbiddle:
cokeman2: i ve had big time since october , has never complained to telecom , yeah ok it was slow at times , but hey free data ....the constant maoning has resulted in this ...while rest of the world enjoys unlimted data plans we always seem to go backwars after a while ...sad day really ....

It's not entirely true that everywhere else in the world has unlimited data plans. Canada is one obvious exception to this rule and data caps are common there. It's also worth noting that many US ISP's are also introducing data caps as well, which while still significantly higher than NZ (say 200GB), they are not unlimited plans.

I had a reasonably priced unlimited use dataplan in London in 2001. It was capped at 1MB/s but it still shows how far behind we are here. NZ is so focused on fast connection speeds, but without the usage limits to match it will be a long time until we get the legal digital distribution of movies etc here in NZ.

It sucks that I'm going to have to limit my use of TVNZ on demand (or change to Orcon) but I doubt I'll be in NZ in a few months anyway.

As to those who Telecom will want to move off the plan before their 12 month contract is due, I say fight it. You have a 12 month contract with Telecom to provide this service. Make them provide it.

Kilack

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Ultimate Geek

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#332232 20-May-2010 11:27

ArranH:
sbiddle:
cokeman2: i ve had big time since october , has never complained to telecom , yeah ok it was slow at times , but hey free data ....the constant maoning has resulted in this ...while rest of the world enjoys unlimted data plans we always seem to go backwars after a while ...sad day really ....

It's not entirely true that everywhere else in the world has unlimited data plans. Canada is one obvious exception to this rule and data caps are common there. It's also worth noting that many US ISP's are also introducing data caps as well, which while still significantly higher than NZ (say 200GB), they are not unlimited plans.

I had a reasonably priced unlimited use dataplan in London in 2001. It was capped at 1MB/s but it still shows how far behind we are here. NZ is so focused on fast connection speeds, but without the usage limits to match it will be a long time until we get the legal digital distribution of movies etc here in NZ.

It sucks that I'm going to have to limit my use of TVNZ on demand (or change to Orcon) but I doubt I'll be in NZ in a few months anyway.

As to those who Telecom will want to move off the plan before their 12 month contract is due, I say fight it. You have a 12 month contract with Telecom to provide this service. Make them provide it.

That is actually an interesting point about the 12 month contract. I am no lawyer but if they wanted to make us pay an early termination fee to leave it then surely they should have to pay us a fee also or provide us the full 12 months that they agreed to.

Kalarin

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Wannabe Geek

#332233 20-May-2010 11:27

This isn't too good for me.

I was happy with the plan so I signed up for another 2 years to get a free wireless modem. You say that a termination fee will be waived but how does this apply in my case? I probably received the modem sometime around the end of last year....

ArranH

161 posts

Master Geek

#332234 20-May-2010 11:28

freitasm:
Jughead: It is pretty clear why it's being closed down..

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?topicid=43761&forumid=39&page_no=120

120 pages of issues... I think the largest thread on these fourms. I know people tried really hard to make it work but it is pretty clear it can't be done at this stage

Our hopes were that thread would reach 200 pages. So you are saying Telecom canned the plan to prevent that thread growing?

/back on topic...

Hehe great conspiracy theory there :)

FreakyKiwi

66 posts

Master Geek

#332236 20-May-2010 11:29

Of course they reserve the right to change plans and remove them at any time with 30 days notice...

garvani

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#332237 20-May-2010 11:29

Move to another telecom plan.. simple, keep the same wireless router.
If you move isp you can chuck that router away as its locked to telecoms network (there are workarounds but anyway,,)

Kalarin

4 posts

Wannabe Geek

#332239 20-May-2010 11:32

garvani: Move to another telecom plan.. simple, keep the same wireless router.
If you move isp you can chuck that router away as its locked to telecoms network (there are workarounds but anyway,,)

I really don't care to much about the wireless router as I can sign up with another ISP and get another. What I am worried about is the $200 termination fee for getting it in the first place...

I am not interested in moving to another telecom plan unfortunately.

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