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windtow

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#311162 19-Dec-2023 14:55
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A few months ago, my elderly grandmother received notice of the upcoming phase-out of copper infrastructure in her area. The options provided were wireless or fiber connectivity.

 

Initially leaning towards wireless, we discovered upon ringing Spark that it wasn't a option due to a saturated network with all major Internet Service Providers (ISPs). This left us with only one alternative—fiber. However, the challenge lies in the fact that fiber is more expensive than both wireless and copper. Since we only require a landline, my grandmother is adamant about avoiding any "modifications," such as a fiber installation, primarily due to the prolonged installation process that causes her concern and stress.

 

We've learned that Chorus imposes a connection fee, contributing to the elevated cost. Despite multiple calls from Spark inquiring about the transition, my grandmother struggles to comprehend the details due to accent barriers, hindering her from confirming a decision.

 

According to Spark, the withdrawal of copper is scheduled for early next year. I remain sceptical that both Spark and Chorus would disconnect their customers without making "reasonable attempts," as it could damage public relations.

 

The situation appears unjust, especially considering the premature withdrawal of copper infrastructure without concurrent upgrades to cell phone towers. It raises concerns about a potential monopoly in play.


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  #3180382 11-Jan-2024 09:45
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windtow:

 

@Wheelbarrow01 is looking into it. He has passed it on to the manager of the Copper Withdrawal team, however, due to it being the holidays he said it might not get looked at. So he has made a note to follow up when he returns to the office on January 10. Not really sure what they could do, however, it is inevitable that the cut-off date will be extended, are I suspect a few people haven't got fibre installed yet.

 

Originally Spark mailed out information and advertised wireless as one option, however, this wasn't correct as it wasn't available. This confused people, as people were aware of neighbours who were on wireless but they couldn't get it. I believe the network is at capacity as certain Spark call centre workers claim this, however some don't know or don't say the reason. Often the call centre workers suggest you go to a physical spark store to sort it out.

 

The current cut-off date is in February 2024, there are still a few people in the area I know of who haven't installed fibre yet or are still deciding. There are probably more people that I am not aware of. A few residents have lived in their houses since they were built in the 1960s. My grandmother has accepted the fact she will get fibre installed, but we haven't booked any dates yet.

 

 

Today I have spoken to a member of the Spark withdrawal team, and have asked them to call this end user asap to discuss the situation, answer any questions and advise what her options are. 

 

In general terms, it should be noted that Chorus provide at least 3 notices regarding the withdrawal date (and the applicable retail service provider usually also makes some form of contact directly with each affected customer). If a customer ignores all notices/contact and chooses to take no action, then the withdrawal is likely to proceed on the date advised, and copper services will be disconnected.

 

If an affected customer has placed a fibre order, but fibre cannot be installed by the deadline, then and only then will the deadline for that specific customer be extended, and we will try to expedite the fibre installation as best we can.

 

The comment I have highlighted above is not correct at all. No customer affected by copper withdrawal should rely on the withdrawal date being extended. I would urge all customers who receive a copper withdrawal notice to take action and discuss alternative options with their retailer at their earliest opportunity.





The views expressed by me are not necessarily those of my employer Chorus NZ Ltd


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