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Topic # 109900 28-Sep-2012 14:25 Send private message

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Telecom Retail Chief Executive Chris Quin announced today that Telecom will begin rolling out dual-carrier HSDPA to New Zealanders by Christmas, extending coverage to half the population during 2013.

"Telecom is committed to maintaining its Smartphone Network advantage and with more dual-carrier capable devices hitting the market, we believe investing in this technology and deploying it rapidly will make a real difference for our customers.

"This comes on top of the already substantial investment Telecom has made in our Smartphone Network, which was built with smart phones in mind and covers 97% of the population with super-fast 3G coverage.

"We've begun by trialling dual-carrier technology with our Telecom people in Auckland, which - with 2,500 people - is a bit like trialling it in a small town."





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  Reply # 692932 28-Sep-2012 14:27 Send private message

Do many handsets on the market support this? If not, wouldn't they be better off putting the work into their LTE network?




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  Reply # 692943 28-Sep-2012 14:51 Send private message

New iDevices support it (iPad 3 & iPhone 5) as does the SIII and a few others from memory.. but I could be wrong.

 

 



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  Reply # 692947 28-Sep-2012 14:57 Send private message

No DC-HSPA on the Galaxy SIII

iPhone 5 is the only handset on sale in the NZ market with DC capability.




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  Reply # 692957 28-Sep-2012 15:12 Send private message

Reading between the lines this says the LTE commercial rollout will be later than initially planned, 

Which is probably not a bad thing given the mess that Global LTE roaming is rapidily becoming...

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  Reply # 692982 28-Sep-2012 15:54 Send private message

wellygary: Reading between the lines this says the LTE commercial rollout will be later than initially planned, 

Which is probably not a bad thing given the mess that Global LTE roaming is rapidily becoming...

...or they've had a knee-jerk since 2deg said it also had dual carrier sites so VF should cease with the greyhound.
And like you say it'll by them more time.

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  Reply # 693145 28-Sep-2012 20:30 Send private message

stevenz: Do many handsets on the market support this? If not, wouldn't they be better off putting the work into their LTE network?


What LTE rollout? They are launching a trial, nothing more. Don't be sucked in my slick marketing!

Vodafone are miles ahead with their LTE rollout and have a far better technical solution but are obviously going to announce this when it's live and ready to carry traffic rather than making premature announcements.


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  Reply # 693159 28-Sep-2012 21:05 Send private message

stevenz: Do many handsets on the market support this? If not, wouldn't they be better off putting the work into their LTE network?

Handsets don't need to support it. The added advantage is it also increases overall capacity of the cell.




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  Reply # 693165 28-Sep-2012 21:12 Send private message

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stevenz: Do many handsets on the market support this? If not, wouldn't they be better off putting the work into their LTE network?

Handsets don't need to support it. The added advantage is it also increases overall capacity of the cell.


Yip this is the main purpose of DC - it's not just about data speeds, it's the fact you're doubling the capacity of the network off the particular cellsite. Vodafone have tri carrier sites out there and also deployed quad carrier sites during the World Cup, simply to increase capacity.

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  Reply # 693177 28-Sep-2012 21:43 Send private message

FYI 3rd carrier is not bonded

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  Reply # 693189 28-Sep-2012 22:12 Send private message

wellygary: Reading between the lines this says the LTE commercial rollout will be later than initially planned,?

Which is probably not a bad thing given the mess that Global LTE roaming is rapidily becoming...


Telecom probably don't need LTE any time soon. They have plenty of 850 & 2100 MHz spectrum and the latest standards allow bonding of carriers across different bands so there is plenty of life left in WCDMA before they need to go to LTE. Not sure if many devices support more than dual carrier at the moment though.

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  Reply # 693190 28-Sep-2012 22:13 Send private message

Tons of life left in WCDMA

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  Reply # 693215 28-Sep-2012 23:16 Send private message

I get better speeds on Telstra DC-HSPA+ than I've seen on the Telstra LTE network (on 3rd gen iPad)




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  Reply # 693883 1-Oct-2012 08:44 Send private message

Perhaps this thread could benefit from some facts.

Especially the fact that Dual Carrier (DC) enables a device to use the power and bandwidth of two radio bearers (carriers) on the same cell site to transport Data. This can, in ideal radio conditions, double the available bandwidth for the device.

The capacity of a cell site does not increase other than, when available, devices using DC will get on and off the network quicker freeing up the cell power for other users. This means that if there are no DC devices using the network then there is no change to the cell performance, capacity or availability.

Dual Carrier requires two side by side blocks of spectrum (carriers) within the same 3G frequency band to operate. The 3G bands in use in NZ are 850MHz (Telecom), 900MHz (Voda), and 2100MHz (Telecom, Voda & 2D).





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  Reply # 693893 1-Oct-2012 09:02 Send private message

sbiddle:
stevenz: Do many handsets on the market support this? If not, wouldn't they be better off putting the work into their LTE network?


What LTE rollout? They are launching a trial, nothing more. Don't be sucked in my slick marketing!

Vodafone are miles ahead with their LTE rollout and have a far better technical solution but are obviously going to announce this when it's live and ready to carry traffic rather than making premature announcements.



So the big "LTE 4G" on the front of their web page means nothing?




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  Reply # 693925 1-Oct-2012 10:02 Send private message

stevenz:
sbiddle:
stevenz: Do many handsets on the market support this? If not, wouldn't they be better off putting the work into their LTE network?


What LTE rollout? They are launching a trial, nothing more. Don't be sucked in my slick marketing!

Vodafone are miles ahead with their LTE rollout and have a far better technical solution but are obviously going to announce this when it's live and ready to carry traffic rather than making premature announcements.



So the big "LTE 4G" on the front of their web page means nothing?


Whose web page?  Neither Vodafone's home page nor Telecom's mentions LTE...

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