Do not just accept the modem on offer...

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sparkynz

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# 132388 20-Oct-2013 19:17

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HIYA

Just though I would let you all know

I have just go off the phone to Telecom.

I pointed out that we run a gigabit network at home and i was not happy with the fact that the modem on offer for the Ultra VDSL only runs at 10/100.

I asked if I could not have the Pace Business modem instead ( Pace V5542 ).
This has 4 gigabit ports.

It is a better spec'd modem as well.

They agreed.

So I get the same deal, Splitter, internal wiring, dedicated VDSL Jack and the Business modem for the $99 install fee...

so.... don't ask ..don't get right...

SO... anyone want a Netgear N600 going cheap LOL

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# 918831 20-Oct-2013 20:11

Note: Please Note: The Pace V5542 does not currently support Bridge Mode or transparent NAT.

So if you are bridging - don't :)

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# 918833 20-Oct-2013 20:16

They're pretty-much the same, I still think bridging to the N600 is a better option but glad you've found an option to suit.

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# 918840 20-Oct-2013 20:49

Yeah, I'd much rather the TG589vn and just bridge it to something good (which is exactly what I do - to an RT-AC66U).

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# 918847 20-Oct-2013 21:02

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IMHO the N600 is a better device than both. You should have just stuck with that (but it's too late now)

I would have taken the Thomson and used it in bridge mode which would have replicated your current setup. As pointed out the Pace doesn't support bridge mode so you won't be able to do that.

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# 918866 20-Oct-2013 21:36

I'm personally of the opinion that folks who "need" gb for home lans should just run a local 8/16/24 port GB switch. You tend to get far better performance out of a proper switch than using the built in one and 4 ports is never enough. I personally would have stuck with the Technicolour, or just gone out and got my own one that fits my needs.

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# 918893 20-Oct-2013 22:45

How cheap for the N600 if you were erious at possibly selling also how old is it???

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# 918894 20-Oct-2013 23:01

sparkynz: HIYA

Just though I would let you all know

I have just go off the phone to Telecom.

I pointed out that we run a gigabit network at home and i was not happy with the fact that the modem on offer for the Ultra VDSL only runs at 10/100.

I asked if I could not have the Pace Business modem instead ( Pace V5542 ).
This has 4 gigabit ports.

It is a better spec'd modem as well.

They agreed.
So I get the same deal, Splitter, internal wiring, dedicated VDSL Jack and the Business modem for the $99 install fee... so.... don't ask ..don't get right... SO... anyone want a Netgear N600 going cheap LOL

The pace v5542 cannot resolve internal network bios names and you must use IP to address internal network devices.

For more information, follow this GZ thread...

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=39&topicid=115480

Personally I believe this is a reasonably serious bug, anyone from telecom care to say whether it is fixed by the latest firmware?

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# 918925 21-Oct-2013 08:27

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So so many of these threads....

Why are NZers so tight?! Going by everyone's needs ISP should be giving out Cisco 2600 series to every single cusomter so they have the features they want.

I have said it once I will say it again... How much does a TV cost? Compare that with how much you use the net compared to watching TV and yet people still moan about spending $300 or $400 on a decent router.

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# 918931 21-Oct-2013 08:52

chevrolux: So so many of these threads....

Why are NZers so tight?! Going by everyone's needs ISP should be giving out Cisco 2600 series to every single cusomter so they have the features they want.

I have said it once I will say it again... How much does a TV cost? Compare that with how much you use the net compared to watching TV and yet people still moan about spending $300 or $400 on a decent router.

Because ISPs have ALWAYS given them away with new plans.

brings back memories - the good old days of the M1122 (what a router!)

But seriously considering buying a router that I can actually get some stats out of. No SNMP on the Technicolour is a pain.

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# 918956 21-Oct-2013 09:34

plambrechtsen: I'm personally of the opinion that folks who "need" gb for home lans should just run a local 8/16/24 port GB switch. You tend to get far better performance out of a proper switch than using the built in one and 4 ports is never enough. I personally would have stuck with the Technicolour, or just gone out and got my own one that fits my needs.

I couldn't agree more. I tried moving from my managed 3Com 16port fully managed Gigabit switch (as the fans where noisy) however I couldn't stream ripped blu-ray movies from my server with any of the routers/modems I tried (3 of them) without stutter. Back to the 3Com and multiple streams are 100% OK.

I am also of the opinion that a switch is a switch, and a modem is a modem (well, whatever that actually are these days as modems are from the old analog days. Aren't they actually routers for xDSL?)

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# 918968 21-Oct-2013 09:49

Are you saying the pace gigabit is for show only and cant handle the data transfer load? It sounds tempting for me to get 10x the speed on my gigabit lan capable devices

Swype on iOS is detrimental to accurate typing. Apologies in advance.

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# 918978 21-Oct-2013 10:08

joker97: Are you saying the pace gigabit is for show only and cant handle the data transfer load? It sounds tempting for me to get 10x the speed on my gigabit lan capable devices

Not for show only, I think it is the switching capacity (i.e. the combined performance) of the switch that matters. This is not my area of expertise so I found this explanation - http://forums.networkinfrastructure.info/nortel-ethernet-switching/switching-capacity-and-switch-fabric-performance/

Anyone else care to elaborate?

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# 919003 21-Oct-2013 10:27

timbosan:
Not for show only, I think it is the switching capacity (i.e. the combined performance) of the switch that matters. This is not my area of expertise so I found this explanation - http://forums.networkinfrastructure.info/nortel-ethernet-switching/switching-capacity-and-switch-fabric-performance/

Anyone else care to elaborate?

Several factors come in to it. One would expect, though, that any half-decent device would have enough backplane bandwidth to support it's ports at full speed. This isn't always the case. Simply put, each port has a maximum speed (such as 1Gbps), and the switch will have a maximum total bandwidth. This total bandwidth should, ideally, be number of ports * 2 * maximum port speed - so for, say, 4 gigabit prots, it should be 4ports * 2 * 1000Mbps = 8000Mbps (or 8Gbps). This would mean the switch can physically support all 4 ports transferring at maximum rate in both directions. If, say, a given switch has 4 gigabit ports, and only 2gbps bandwidth, you'll only be able to get a total combined transfer rate of 2gbps at any time. If you really want to go further you can start looking at forwarding rates and such as well.