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#16135 26-Sep-2007 09:34
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Two New Zealand papers have this morning commented that Telecom may have struck a deal with Government to sell their fixed network.

Thoughts?

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#88132 26-Sep-2007 09:46
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Let's wait for details. Really, there's nothing on those stories.





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#88134 26-Sep-2007 09:53
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Oh Mauricio, how could you ignore such a juicy story. Telecommunications story of the year if true.







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#88135 26-Sep-2007 09:54
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It's not ignoring. The great deal is not that Telecom may be selling the fixed network.

The big story is who is buying it? and those papers didn't say anything about it. I do not like people breaking stories with no substance. I want meat in my burger!





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#88139 26-Sep-2007 10:18
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Tony, I see your blog post saying the Government will buy it. But I can't find this in the news. The Stuff story says:


Telecom is understood to have struck an informal deal with the Government to flog off its fixed-line telephone network, valued at more than $3 billion.


To me it indicates the company has worked with the Government on a deal that is agreed upon, that is "Telecom will sell its fixed-line network". It doesn't say that it will sell to the Government.

I would believe if it was "Telecom is understood to have struck an informal deal to sell its fixed-line network to the Government."





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#88141 26-Sep-2007 10:20
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freitasm: I want meat in my burger!


Obviously Wednesday is Vegetarian!

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  #88143 26-Sep-2007 10:21

Nothing so exciting it would seem, although still pretty far reaching.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/3/story.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10465987

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Communications Minister David Cunliffe said today the Government would stick with its original plan to force a split of Telecom Corp into three separate operational units.
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Mr Cunliffe said The Dominion Post story was incorrect and there was no deal to sell off the network.

"There is no sell deal to sell off the Telecom network," he told reporters.


 

But more interestingly:


 

Some amendments have been made to improve the efficacy of separation and to provide positive incentives to upgrade the network, with appropriate safeguards, he said

An Independent Oversight Group (IOG) would be set up to monitor the split.

The separation of Telecom would take place by March 31 and Telecom had 20 working days to prepare a draft separation plan.

Mr Cunliffe said the IOG would be a high-level watchdog within Telecom comprised of three independent members and have the power to report directly to the Commerce Commission where appropriate.

He said he had laid out the scope and governance of the new Access Network Services. The ANS unit will control and provide services that use the local access network including existing copper, and future fibre and wireless access, to ensure comprehensive service coverage and that the unit is forward-looking and future-proofed.


 

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  #88147 26-Sep-2007 10:57
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#88148 26-Sep-2007 10:58
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PaulBrislen: Mr Cunliffe said The Dominion Post story was incorrect and there was no deal to sell off the network.

"There is no sell deal to sell off the Telecom network," he told reporters.



Story of the year? Yeah, Stuff is looking for one...





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  #88155 26-Sep-2007 11:42
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I would hope to see an awful lot of due diligence before anyone (particularly the government) bought the access network. (Presumably they mean access network only and not the core network.)




 

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#88156 26-Sep-2007 11:43
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Just to confirm Stuff got it wrong first time (or people read it wrong), they now have a link to a blog "Why Helen should buy Telecom's network"...

So, as I posted in my firtst reply, no news really...

Wake up guys!





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  #88157 26-Sep-2007 11:52
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There mere suggestion of anybody buying the PSTN network would end up with far more unanswered questions that answered ones.

What would actually be for sale? How would it affect Telecom's NGN rollout? How can you accurately define a cost of a network that's book value is effectively $0 with switches that will all be destined for the scrap heap and replaced by a FTTN network?

Selling the PSTN network to the government isn't quite as simple as selling the railway lines.


 
 
 
 

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#88161 26-Sep-2007 12:31
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If they sell off the fixed-line network (presumably the new Access Network Services), how do they retain the wholesale arm?  Wouldn't they need to purchase wholesale services themselves from the new owner?

(I'm having a week of dim questions and this probably counts as one.)




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#88167 26-Sep-2007 13:17
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lugh: If they sell off the fixed-line network (presumably the new Access Network Services), how do they retain the wholesale arm?  Wouldn't they need to purchase wholesale services themselves from the new owner?

(I'm having a week of dim questions and this probably counts as one.)


Well that is a good question, and just to add something in with this question of yours, one could also ask with the separation of Telecom into 3 arms (Network, Consumer and Wholesale), and with the Wholesale / Network divisions unable to discrimination against access seekers (and the regulated prices) why would Telecom's Retail arm seek access via Telecom Wholesale? Would they not be better to just install their own equipment like everyone else under LLU? If this is the case, I ask what is the point, if no one is going to buy access from Telecom Wholesale, and use their own equipment!

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  #88174 26-Sep-2007 13:46
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nzbnw - I would think that the T/C wholesale would sell to the smaller ISPs that don't have the capital to invest in a backbone (and equipment in exchanges) of their own.  So you're right - as T/C retail is the biggest game in town with plenty of cash - the logical thing for them to do would be to install their own backbone. 

What a colourful merry-go-round this could turn into.Smile






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  #88176 26-Sep-2007 14:03
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And don't forget the embedded cost for all the copper, in the last mile, and the remote exchanges.


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