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# 181131 3-Oct-2015 18:04
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I'm not sure this is the right forum, so apologies if I've got it wrong...

Can I make a parallel connection to one of the telephone leads that run across my loft space?  I decided to set up the fax on a new printer today, but discovered Chorus used the telephone lead to pull the CAT6 through!    So what do I need to know and use?  I currently have two devices connected to telephone points in our house.

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  # 1399432 3-Oct-2015 18:16
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well in pretty much every house they all go back to a single point, either in series or in parallel.

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  # 1399448 3-Oct-2015 19:27
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Are you needing the fax next to the xDSL point (that I assume was the Cat6 Chorus pulled? ). If so, you could use a spare pair in there and connect back at ETP.




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Is that using a spare pair of wires in the cat6 cable?  So two of the eight are used for the phone, and another two of the eight are for the fax?


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  # 1399512 3-Oct-2015 23:52
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coffeebaron: Are you needing the fax next to the xDSL point (that I assume was the Cat6 Chorus pulled? ). If so, you could use a spare pair in there and connect back at ETP.


What a greate idea.  That would never have occurred to me, and it will easier accessing the ETP than crawling about in the loft.  




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  # 1399911 4-Oct-2015 23:25
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Much as I liked the idea of using spare wires in the CAT6, I didn't have a three sided head to take the cap off the ETP, and it was just a bit too awkward to get to.  My eyesight makes it hard enough without laying on my tummy in my wife's precious flower bed!  So I decided to just break into one of the loft cables which appear to star back to the ETP.  Having looked at dozens of diagrams on Google, nothing quite matches my situation, so I'd appreciate one last bit of guidance. 

The graphic at the top is looking into the socket of the extension cable I am using, and the photo below  is the cable in the loft I intend breaking into.  I'm sorry to be so dub about this, but I know I can get it right first time with your help, which beats the trial and error I'll otherwise be resorting to.



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  # 1399921 4-Oct-2015 23:41
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i just use a flat head in the triangle ETP screws seems to work most of the time

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  # 1399926 5-Oct-2015 02:18
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TLD:The graphic at the top is looking into the socket of the extension cable I am using, and the photo below  is the cable in the loft I intend breaking into.  I'm sorry to be so dub about this, but I know I can get it right first time with your help, which beats the trial and error I'll otherwise be resorting to.



Thanks again




DONT use an extention cable for permanent wireing - it will have a stranded construction of the cores of the cable and sometimes have synthetic fillers - the plugs and sockets are crimped on in machines designed to suit - using two/three ports to joiin in this cable into yoiur existing house wireing will be a nightmare - also the construction of the cable isnt twisted pair so can be a source for any induced noise.

If you are going to join into your wireing in the roof space (not a recomended practise anyway)  - run use a new piece of cat6 - join in with three port connectors and terminate it on a BT socket. (blue/Bluewhite pair)

As for the cable in the loft - the red and white pair is the standard pair used in a 6way cable for normal phone wireing but it could be on the either of the ofther two (green/blue , orange/black) if it has been moved on to theses for some reason - normaly a wire fault being bypassed or because another pr is being used for DSL or a second line at some stage.


Go with the useing a spare pr in the CAT6 already run - it will save so many problems in the long run

 
 
 
 


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  # 1400151 5-Oct-2015 11:32
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Thanks for the information.  Unfortunately, I am of an age when I need to make things as simple and easy as possible.  I watched the Chorus guy working on the ETP and he had trouble putting the cover back on because it was so crammed full of wires.  It is also at ground level, and my eyesight is crap even with reading glasses on.

But I do have plenty of CAT6 cable left over from the VDSL installation, so I am going follow your advice as far as I am able, and run a new length of CAT6 from the new telephone socket to a junction box in the loft.  Not best practice I realise, but a reasonable compromise, and I can place the JB on a roof timber close to the hatch, and I'll even hang a label identifying it for those that come after me.




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