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arthurhh

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# 205882 30-Nov-2016 22:24

Okay the router provided is a little bit low spec.

It uses a SIM card with a Cell IMEI to connect so the router is I suspect not really the lock in to the service.

Has anyone found a better 3rd party router which deals with port fowards etc better than the Huaewi

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# 1680360 30-Nov-2016 22:53

No, SIM locked.

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# 1680369 30-Nov-2016 23:11

I assume its a modem, with a router. Like DSL. Can you turn off the router and attach another in bridge mode to achieve the required modem, and your desired router?

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# 1680372 30-Nov-2016 23:27

Cant port forward from a CG NAT connection anyway.

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# 1680406 1-Dec-2016 05:59

You can't take the SIM out and put it into a non supported router. The service will be disabled as you are breaking the T&C by breaking the seal covering the SIM slot.
The service is locked to the IMEI range of the Huawei routers.
As it's behind a CGNAT then you can't open ports anyway do if you need remote access in setup a OpenVPN or similar and tunnel to a known static IP.

arthurhh

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# 1681275 2-Dec-2016 13:45

This is going to be a problem, as a minimum we need VPN and Dynamic DNS I have seen Cisco units that take a sim supplied by Spark but suspect it is only a 3G unit

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# 1681282 2-Dec-2016 13:51

arthurhh:

This is going to be a problem, as a minimum we need VPN and Dynamic DNS I have seen Cisco units that take a sim supplied by Spark but suspect it is only a 3G unit

With respect to the Fixed Wireless service, Bartenders comments are precisely correct. For the functionality you describe you're going to need to look into VPNs.

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arthurhh

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# 1681296 2-Dec-2016 14:23

Without port Forwarding I cant get to the VPN server without Dynamic DNS cant locate the connection Not a good for me

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# 1681301 2-Dec-2016 14:28

arthurhh:

Without port Forwarding I cant get to the VPN server without Dynamic DNS cant locate the connection Not a good for me

I don't think you understand the issue.

You can't forward a port on a Spark FWA connection because it's behind CG-NAT and you don't have a public IP.

Having a different router won't change this. Even if you do have a different router and a public IP you'll have the small issue that the APN's on all mobile providers block inbound uninitiated traffic for very obvious reasons.

I don't know exactly what you're trying to achieve but there is no way of making it work the way you're planning it. All traffic needs to be outbound from the mobile connection, so it's normal to have the mobile end initiate the VPN connection, not be the VPN endpoint.

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# 1681309 2-Dec-2016 14:59

Get a router that can run OpenVPN, then I have seen a super cheap VPS provider in NZ:

http://zappiehost.com/new-zealand-vps

Then setup OpenVPN to VPN to that host, and you can then VPN from your client to the VPS.. and then you are away.

That's how I do it (well I just use a dedicated connection I have) and then bounce in and out of the VPN tunnel behind the Carrier Grade NAT.

arthurhh

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# 1681399 2-Dec-2016 17:12

From Sparks Web Site for the b315S 4G Broadband

Note: You can set forwarding rules on the HG630b so that users can easily access server resources provided by your computer (such as personal web sites and FTP servers) from the Internet. These rules can be set by IP address only.

Port Mapping
Port mapping maps the HG630b port using a WAN IP address to a LAN computer. When Internet users access the HG630b port, the HG630b maps access requests to the LAN computer and provides services for the Internet users through the LAN computer. Internet users can then access the LAN computer.

Prerequisite: You will need to set computer's LAN IP address as static before attempting to configure port forwarding (e.g. 192.168.1.xxx)

So it appears it can be done

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# 1681405 2-Dec-2016 17:25

But it is a double NAT.
NAT 1 is LAN to Spark Mobile WAN. You get assigned a CGNAT 100.64.0.0/12 IP address. Which you have control over to port forward.
NAT 2 is Spark CGNAT to internet. You have no control over it and no ability to pinhole a port.

So unless you can pinhole on #2 there is no point talking about #1. Trust me I know a lot about this.

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# 1681414 2-Dec-2016 17:43

arthurhh:

From Sparks Web Site for the b315S 4G Broadband

Note: You can set forwarding rules on the HG630b so that users can easily access server resources provided by your computer (such as personal web sites and FTP servers) from the Internet. These rules can be set by IP address only.

Port Mapping
Port mapping maps the HG630b port using a WAN IP address to a LAN computer. When Internet users access the HG630b port, the HG630b maps access requests to the LAN computer and provides services for the Internet users through the LAN computer. Internet users can then access the LAN computer.

Prerequisite: You will need to set computer's LAN IP address as static before attempting to configure port forwarding (e.g. 192.168.1.xxx)

So it appears it can be done

I think you are reading about a different router.

Spark Digital does offer a real internet service over 4G, but definitely not at the price you're thinking.

arthurhh

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# 1681415 2-Dec-2016 17:43

BarTender: But it is a double NAT.
NAT 1 is LAN to Spark Mobile WAN. You get assigned a CGNAT 100.64.0.0/12 IP address. Which you have control over to port forward.
NAT 2 is Spark CGNAT to internet. You have no control over it and no ability to pinhole a port.

So unless you can pinhole on #2 there is no point talking about #1. Trust me I know a lot about this.

I guess I will find out, it isnt much good if it cant be done

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# 1681422 2-Dec-2016 17:54

arthurhh:

From Sparks Web Site for the b315S 4G Broadband

arthurhh:Note: You can set forwarding rules on the HG630b so that users can easily access server resources provided by your computer (such as personal web sites and FTP servers) from the Internet. These rules can be set by IP address only.

The b315S and HG630b are different routers, used for different services.

arthurhh

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# 1681427 2-Dec-2016 18:04

The info was from the B315 info which is what I have for 4G wireless internet

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