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Topic # 25881 4-Sep-2008 21:25

Just curious to know if anybody has an idea about the Telecom fibre optic roll out in Auckland. Obviously now, most providers are
going on to ADSL2. How long should we wait in Auckland for F/O, and what speeds could we expect?? 

Or is it more difficult than that.....................hmm??

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  Reply # 162304 4-Sep-2008 21:28
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There is no program for fibre to be rolled out to individual households.

All new subdivions now receive fibre and Telecom are progressively rolling out a FTTN network which means a lot more fibre to the new node end cabinets but not to houses directly.

This could of course change if National are elected with talk of a nationwide fibre rollout.

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  Reply # 162330 4-Sep-2008 22:57
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sbiddle: All new subdivions now receive fibre and Telecom are progressively rolling out a FTTN network which means a lot more fibre to the new node end cabinets but not to houses directly.

To add to what sbiddle has posted, Telecom has elected not to put any more copper wires into the ground, so only the new subdivisions are getting fibre.  Unless you move into one of these new subdivisions, I believe you'll be waiting a long time.

Speeds on the new FTTH (Fibre To The Home) connections is limited to 30Mbps down, 6Mbps up - obviously it can go a lot faster, but NZ doesn't have the back haul to support multiple homes on 100Mbps and higher up/down.



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  Reply # 162342 5-Sep-2008 05:49

Thanks guys, just what I wanted to know.
Was never too sure what level F/O roll out was, and what should one expect.

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  Reply # 162367 5-Sep-2008 09:06
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Should point out that as far as I am aware (and according to Chorus/Telecoms briefing a couple of months back) FTTH will only be deployed into new subdivisions with 100plots or more. Based on the stats that I saw from the land deeds office nearly 70% of new subdivisions are below that level, essentailly other than a few large developers most development consists of smaller operataions that slowly chip away at a piece of land portion by portion often over quite a few years, hence they never break the 100 barrier at anyone time. I only hope that in these situations Chorus take a long term view and count numbers on the ulitimate potential of a land block not just whats before them today.

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  Reply # 162401 5-Sep-2008 10:37
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cyril7:hence they never break the 100 barrier at anyone time. I only hope that in these situations Chorus take a long term view and count numbers on the ulitimate potential of a land block not just whats before them today.


<sarcasm>
That would take foresight and planning, do you think it will ever happen here in New Zealand!?
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  Reply # 162430 5-Sep-2008 11:36
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You mean like the gas company that rips up the road to lay new pipes, then 3weeks latter the council do the same to new lay water pipes, both/knew/saw what was happening but now one has a wip/balls or whatever to control it.

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  Reply # 162447 5-Sep-2008 13:04

The New Zealand Herald  September 5,2021.

New Zealand broadband standards, which have never been better than 23rd in the OECD, got a much needed boost today
when telecommunications company Telecom announced fibre optic roll out to every household.

"We are proud to bring fibre optic to every kiwi household, and this is a wonderful day for New Zealand" said Telecom CEO Archie McMannus. When asked to comment why it has taken so long to implement the nationwide roll out, Magnus replied, " A nation wide roll out of this scale takes careful planning and time, and is not something we can do quickly". "Anyway" whispered McMannus, not
realising his microphone was on "Our marketing department required us to!".

New Zealand, which has consistently placed in the bottom 3 of broadband speed in the OECD, can expect the new roll out,
to take approximately 3years, and enable households to experience speeds of up to 50mbs.

Australia, Europe, and Tonga, completed their fibre optic roll out, in 2009.

Minister of Communications, Elga Dorphus said she was very pleased but also disappointed as none of her questions to Telecom
were ever answered. "They lost my telephone number!"

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Reply # 162476 5-Sep-2008 14:25
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I think FTTN is a good enough solution for now, ie a balance between what can be afforded and what is feasable since it reuses the existing copper to the houses.

Fibre to the home will come but I don't think it's as urgent as some people.  There's so many complaints about telecom's copper, yet many threads and speedtests seem to point to the fact that with your average domestic DSL connection, the sqeeze is on International bandwidth.  If you can't get the speeds you like now, how is it going to change with a fibre connection to your house?

There's plenty of people who try to get a 2nd phone line or move provider and find a restriction like a concrete driveway laid 20 years ago needs to be smashed up costing thousands, so they flag the idea.   I guess if national get in, John Key is going to be out with a spade digging up your drive to lay the new fibre at no charge...  Tim Shadbolt could always join in with his concrete mixer to fill it in afterwards?  :)

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  Reply # 162480 5-Sep-2008 14:33
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As we all know in real terms FTTH is the most built proof solution, however there are plenty of obsticals to slow its rollout into brown fields. I think I would like to see the greenfields 100plot cut off lowered.

That all said based on this there is plenty of life for the next few years left in Telecoms copper, sure you need to be within 1km line length to get this kinda performance, but I could put up with that for the next few years, one assumes sometime soon Telecom will offer VDSL2 as I understand the ISAM has VDSL2 card options.

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  Reply # 163496 10-Sep-2008 14:43
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All the new houses built in Auckland - Botany South - Mission Heights, Jeff Road, has fibre terminating in the house.
In fact it teminates in the garage then a media converter ready for you.


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