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davemc

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#303168 20-Jan-2023 16:26
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We have a Spark Smart Modem 2 installed at a remote house.

 

It is installed in the attic, so the guests in the house can't fiddle with it.

 

However, it gets fairly warm up there.

 

It was showing instability, typically in the late afternoon, going offline, and not responding until rebooted, be that hours or days.  Or dropping the WAN side connection, while still seeming to be alive.

 

We moved the SM2 out of the attic to a high shelf in the kitchen, but still with the power outlet in the attic. Same problem.

 

We logged a call with Spark, they sent out a replacement router, with replacement sim. We plugged it into the same power supply (it's tricky to get into the attic), and now we're seeing the same issues - late afternoon lockup or drops off internet.

 

Unfortunately the original router has been sent back, with the power supply from the second router, so we can't now swap them over.

 

I'm strongly suspecting the power supply is fading under thermal stress, perhaps dropping the voltage enough to lock up the router or at least kill the WAN transmit ability, which is likely a high power use component.

 

I hope to send a replacement power supply from my pile, likely a bigger one to, like a 5amp off a screen. We'll put that on the kitchen shelf as well, not in the too warm attic.

 

NONE of the Spark reference material show what the power supply is. Unacceptable documentation for such a widely deployed device from such a large and 'clever' company.

 

The setup video shows the underside requiring a 12v 3A power supply, and another thread on geekzone confirms that.

 

However it's not clear what the tip pin socket size.  Common sizes are 2.1, 2.5 and 3.2mm   The larger sizes are more common on bigger amperage, like this power supply.

 

Can anyone please put an accurate ruler or micrometer on the plug tip socket and measure it?

 

Alternatively, can anyone point to what the underlying device is, and the tech docs for it that include the power supply details.

 

System Information

 

Model Name: Smart Modem 2.0

 

Firmware Version: 2.01.12 build05-20220905

 

Hardware Version: R01

 

Serial Number: JC12007xxx

 

Device Information

 

Device Status: Ready

 

Manufacturer ID: Quectel

 

Device module: EG12EAPA

 

Device IMEI: 86056104052xxxx

 

Firmware version: EG12EAPAR01A02M4G_ACY

 

Parameters version: EG12EA_V00004_201912261

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks in advance

 

David

 

 

 

 


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davemc

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  #3024926 20-Jan-2023 18:55
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Official word from Spark support is it's 3.2mm  They had to refer up to level 2 support.




  #3024967 20-Jan-2023 21:25
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Here are a couple of snap  shots of my SM2 power supply.

 

The plug is 5.5mm OD.

 

I can't guarantee that the power supply is a Spark supplied one as I bought my SM2 off Trademe to play with.

 

The power supply plug fits the SM2 perfectly and runs the modem without any problems.

 

 





Gordy

 

My first ever AM radio network connection was with a 1MHz AM crystal(OA91) radio receiver.


davemc

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  #3024970 20-Jan-2023 21:56
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Thanks for that, very clear photos.

 

Typically it's the inner diameter that varies.  The diameter of the pole in the centre of the modem, or the inside diameter of the plug, although with this hair-pin style, that's not so easy to measure.

 

 

 

David

 

 

 

 




  #3024975 20-Jan-2023 22:29
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Missed the finer point of what you wanted... difficult to measure the centre pin of the SM2 socket.

 

Laying the calipers over the socket and using a jewellers eye glass I estimate the centre pin to be approximately 2mm.

 

By a different approach:

 

A 2.4mm drill will not fit into the power supply plug.

 

A 2mm drill will fit into the plug and is gripped firmly.

 

So the answer you want is most likely a 2.1mm pin. 😀





Gordy

 

My first ever AM radio network connection was with a 1MHz AM crystal(OA91) radio receiver.


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  #3025016 21-Jan-2023 07:37
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That's a good approach, using drills to size the hole.

 

Very useful to know that it's 2.1

 

Thank you for taking the extra effort to pin down a definitive answer.

 

David


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  #3060275 8-Apr-2023 09:04
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Hey David,
Did you resolve the issue of your modem dropping out in the afternoon/evening

We have exactly the same problem although our modem is not in a hot location.

In the log I see errors all the time which I am pretty sure is related (I’m trying to upload a screenshot of the error messages)

Cheers
Chris




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  #3060292 8-Apr-2023 11:26
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davemc:

Official word from Spark support is it's 3.2mm  They had to refer up to level 2 support.



They should have referred it to level 2.1 support.

Years ago I worked in an area that did acceptance testing for Telecom devices. Our manager asked to see the material in the "script" given to support staff and was told they didn't need any help thanks.

 
 
 

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  #3061011 10-Apr-2023 14:51
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davemc:

 

Very useful to know that it's 2.1

 

 

Upon getting my hands on one, it was also 2.1mm, so confirmed.


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  #3061012 10-Apr-2023 14:58
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Nzwards3: Hey David,
Did you resolve the issue of your modem dropping out in the afternoon/evening

 

Sort of.

 

There is a nosey camera app, Nx Witness, running on one of the PCs that likes to keep an open channel back to it's mothership, so the remote access reverse tunnel from their portal/cloud always works.

 

It seems that perhaps the Spark network detects this as 'hosting' of some kind, and kicks you off every 24 to 48 hours or so. 

 

We asked them to investigate the connection drops a number of times, and in the end, the most they would say is you need to pay $15 extra per month for a fixed ip account, which obviously permits inbound connections, and by implication gets you off the greylist.   The app doesn't need that as it does real time STUN checking etc.  However it seems the Spark network policy supervisor does need this.

 

Since that change it's been very stable, with only one outage.

 

YMMV.

 

David


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  #3061332 11-Apr-2023 09:14
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Thanks David, I will have a look at what is running on my network that could cause the same effect.

Cheers
Chris

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