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#304018 29-Mar-2023 09:11
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Goodbye Telecom XT...

 

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Spark today announced it will close down its legacy 3G network towards the end of 2025, freeing up limited radio spectrum that will enable its 5G roll out in rural Aotearoa.

 

With Spark’s 4G network reaching 98% of New Zealanders, only 4% of its total network data traffic running over 3G, and 3G voice calls having declined by 70% since 2019, the vast majority of Spark’s mobile customers will not notice any change.

 

It is a transition mobile network operators in New Zealand and around the world will be undertaking, with many overseas operators having already switched off their 3G networks.

 

Spark’s Chief Operating Officer, Mark Beder, said Spark (then Telecom) first introduced 3G in Aotearoa back in 2009. Since then, mobile technologies have continued to advance, with the introduction of 4G, 5G and IoT networks, which has brought improvements in speed and latency.

 

“Our 3G network enabled New Zealanders to use the internet for the first time on their mobile phones. And while it’s served us very well, 14 years on, newer mobile generations are far better suited to meet today's needs.

 

“We want to assure customers that we will be enhancing 4G coverage in the few areas where there is currently only 3G available and we’ll continue to invest in both our 4G and 5G networks ahead of the 3G closure. We will also be getting in touch directly with customers to support them to make any necessary device replacements over the next two years.

 

“We know some customers are still connecting to 3G in areas where 4G is available, which is predominantly due to the age of the device being used. Some of these older models can’t make voice calls over 4G and so they fall back to 3G when calls are made, so it’s important that they’re replaced ahead of the 3G closure. Other customers may have the capability on their phone but need to enable it in their settings.”

 

All mobile devices currently sold by Spark are entirely 4G-ready, meaning they do not rely on 3G for calling, texting or data, with prices starting from as low as $129.00.

 

In addition, a large range of mobile devices can also now make traditional voice calls over WiFi, meaning customers can make and receive mobile calls using a WiFi connection even if there is no 3G, 4G or 5G coverage. Spark also plans to introduce SMS (or texting) over WiFi in 2023.

 





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  #3056033 29-Mar-2023 09:21
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Great news



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  #3056050 29-Mar-2023 09:56
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well they better start fixing there networks caused i live 10m from hamilton most of the time iam on 3G :( 

 

all flat area ,iam on skinny been like this for years 





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  #3056110 29-Mar-2023 10:15
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cokeman2:

 

well they better start fixing there networks caused i live 10m from hamilton most of the time iam on 3G :( 

 

all flat area ,iam on skinny been like this for years 

 

 

Yep, 3G is still everywhere, although I wonder how much of it is the (i)Phone "deciding" to prefer 3G to save battery, rather than a true lack of 4G.




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  #3056113 29-Mar-2023 10:18
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well they better start fixing there networks caused i live 10m from hamilton most of the time iam on 3G :( 

 

all flat area ,iam on skinny been like this for years 

 

 

@cokeman2 The 4G coverage footprint is artificially shrunk so once 3G is turned off they can increase the power on 4G win win!!

 

This will stop your handset from passing down to 3G 


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  #3056153 29-Mar-2023 11:24
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freitasm:

 

Goodbye Telecom XT...

 

Press release:

 

 

Spark today announced it will close down its legacy 3G network towards the end of 2025, freeing up limited radio spectrum that will enable its 5G roll out in rural Aotearoa.

 

 

 

Does this mean they'll stop selling phones that don't support VoLTE? There are still a huge number of devices in circulation, including my Nokia 7.1, that won't do VoLTE on their network. As a consumer if i'm buying a new device today I want to use it until atleast 2026+.





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Does this mean they'll stop selling phones that don't support VoLTE? There are still a huge number of devices in circulation, including my Nokia 7.1, that won't do VoLTE on their network. As a consumer if i'm buying a new device today I want to use it until atleast 2026+.

 

 

Oh and Skinny has tried to enable VoLTE and every time it broke all voice calling and in some cases also broke my SMS support.





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  #3056159 29-Mar-2023 11:37
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@openmedia Did you read the press release?

 

" All mobile devices currently sold by Spark are entirely 4G-ready, meaning they do not rely on 3G for calling, texting or data "


 
 
 

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@openmedia Did you read the press release?

 

" All mobile devices currently sold by Spark are entirely 4G-ready, meaning they do not rely on 3G for calling, texting or data "

 

 

Excellent news. Doesn't help relatives who keep phones for 5+ years. And What happens if you've moved between networks - compatibility isn't broad enough.





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  #3056172 29-Mar-2023 12:02
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Excellent news. Doesn't help relatives who keep phones for 5+ years. And What happens if you've moved between networks - compatibility isn't broad enough.

 

 

iPhones do volte fine. If you buy bottom of the barrel phones from the supermarket then you won't have the same longevity of support, but you get what you pay for.

 

If some 3+ year old out of support android ZTE or huawai trash tier when new phone doesn't do it, no big deal IMO.

 

2+ years is plenty of time to plan ahead to replace a phone, but it will be a repeat of the analog shut off, the CDMA shut off, the TV switchover, etc etc where some people whine and complain about it that they were not warned, had no idea, don't want the change etc and they have to just be ignored.





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  #3056176 29-Mar-2023 12:23
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well they better start fixing there networks caused i live 10m from hamilton most of the time iam on 3G :( 

 

all flat area ,iam on skinny been like this for years 

 

 

At home in deepest, darkest Remuera, my Spark connection routinely falls back to 3G.

 

 


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  #3056178 29-Mar-2023 12:27
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cokeman2:


well they better start fixing there networks caused i live 10m from hamilton most of the time iam on 3G :( 


all flat area ,iam on skinny been like this for years 



At home in deepest, darkest Remuera, my Spark connection routinely falls back to 3G.


 



@johno1234 Did you read my quote to that post?

4G coverage is artificially shrunk at the moment due to 3G

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  #3056179 29-Mar-2023 12:27
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At home in deepest, darkest Remuera, my Spark connection routinely falls back to 3G.

 

 

All the more reason to turn it off then so that stops happening.





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johno1234:

 

At home in deepest, darkest Remuera, my Spark connection routinely falls back to 3G.

 

 

All the more reason to turn it off then so that stops happening.

 

 

Only if the 4G does actually improve. When on 4G it is 1 bar and the data is slow.


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@johno1234 Did you read my quote to that post?

4G coverage is artificially shrunk at the moment due to 3G

 

I'll believe 4G improves when I see it.

 

 


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  #3056189 29-Mar-2023 13:04
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Only if the 4G does actually improve. When on 4G it is 1 bar and the data is slow.

 

 

And then on 3g you end up with no data at all IME, 4g 700MHz is artificially turned down because they are worried about people seeing they have bars on a non volte phone and trying to make a call and then they go away or the call doesn't work well enough to hear. Without that 3g handdown to worry about and being able to use the 800MHz for 4g it will be better than 3G. You may not even have 700MHz where you are and are hanging onto the higher freq stuff that has poorer building penetration. Using 800MHz for 4G again will fix this, which they cant do when 3G is sitting there wasting the spectrum on inefficient circuit switched data sessions and voice calls.





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