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squareeyes123

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#304566 15-May-2023 14:29
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I spent two years trying to work out why my parents never got Signal Messenger messages until they left thier house (roamed from WiFi to mobile data). We suspected it was mobile broadband/DNS problems, as the issue eventually resolved itself when fibre became available.

 

I was helping a friend today; debug why he was getting connection refused for a certain site he was browsing to. I was stumped (it worked on his mobile data connection), and alarm bells rang when he said he also has issues with Signal Messenger, only getting messages when he leaves the house. And in fact it happens with emails too, he said. This happens on his (and his wife's) Android handsets.

 

Though, he has Fibre. So maybe the wireless broadband conclusion was a red herring. What on earth is Spark doing to be blocking these safe/essential services?

 

With this new info I was intrigued and we are looking at Net Shield as a possible cause. Though won't have info on that for a few hours.

 

Spark were NEVER able to diagnose or resolve the original issue. But it seems common enough.

 

 


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  #3076413 15-May-2023 14:40
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Signal works fine with our Spark Fibre connection, 

 

 

 

If your parents have turned on net shield its certainly a possibility 

 

Try a VPN and see if this lets Signal messages through,  then its most likely Net Shield, 




squareeyes123

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  #3076646 16-May-2023 09:21
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Net Shield was the cause.

 

I can't beleive it.

 

I'll never ever get my two years back and I'm super salty Spark couldn't diagnose this for my parents. Tens of hours on the phone and email.

 

 

 

Hopefully this helps somone. My friend is stoked Signal now works.


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  #3076653 16-May-2023 09:49
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Why should Spark be diagnosing it? They are not your IT Support

This is part of the problem why ISPs are so difficult to contact

Early 2000 I worked on a mobole help desk and customers would call asking for printer support



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  #3076659 16-May-2023 10:02
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Net Shield is a Spark product, hosted at the Spark ISP, that neither my friend or parents turned on (knowingly)... and it's blocking common services.


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  #3076663 16-May-2023 10:05
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Linux: Why should Spark be diagnosing it? They are not your IT Support

This is part of the problem why ISPs are so difficult to contact

Early 2000 I worked on a mobole help desk and customers would call asking for printer support

 

Maybe because Net Shield is a Spark product? I.e. it being enabled causes the Spark network to block things on their end.


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  #3076664 16-May-2023 10:06
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squareeyes123:

Net Shield is a Spark product, hosted at the Spark ISP, that neither my friend or parents turned on (knowingly)... and it's blocking common services.



WOW I take back what I said above

That is shocking if they provide the service

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  #3076680 16-May-2023 10:38
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I did raise this to the right person at Spark as this shouldn't be happening.

 

I work for them but am not personally in any departments related to Broadband or Mobile or anything there to be truly helpful and don't expect to hear anything back (but the right person has indeed been notified).





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  #3076728 16-May-2023 10:43
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Are Netshield and/or Signal Messenger not used by many people. You'd think this would have blown up bigger than a thread on GS.

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  #3076748 16-May-2023 11:09
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My parents simply put up with it, as did my friend. It was only push notifications. You could still open the app and retreive notifications. And also get push notifications when you left the house.

 

My friend spent quite a bit of time looking into his Android handsets (unsuccessfully) as the cause aparently. Seems tied to Google Play services maybe as other apps push notifications were also broken.

 

I'd say the website that was blocked was independent (yet still related to Net Shield, since it immediately started to work when Net Shield was disabled).

 

At my parents I's had issues with Viber and Pushbullet, and a couple of other home security apps.


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  #3076885 16-May-2023 17:08
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Hi Team, I posted this same problem I was experiencing on this forum last year.

 

Nobody including Spark was able to solve my same problem.

 

I changed routers thee times with spark and even purchased another non spark modem. Still no joy after spending hundreds of hours talking to other ?gurus even directly with whats app guys.

 

About November last year I went into my Spark account and as one of my experiments, I removed/disabled the Net Shield setting(Spark had already told me that it wouldnt be the cause of my problem and to leave it on).  Bingo!!! It fixed the problem.

 

I am sorry I did not let members know of my discovery then as it may have solved other members frustrations. 

 

 


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  #3076889 16-May-2023 17:23
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Hope the Gurus out there can help me with Whatsapp notification problems.

 

Our household are having Wi-Fi problems with our own and other visitors cell phones, used here, and logged into our spark modem Wi-Fi. All are not receiving general phone messages and/or Whatsapp messages or phone calls when the respective cell phones go into sleep or standby mode. When we open the phones from sleep or standby mode we can.
The cell phones are less than 2 years old and are of various bands and include Samsung, Oppo and Nokia. We are an android family and use Whatsapp as our main form of communication.
Myself and various family members have been trying for months to fix this problem as we are missing some important calls and notifications.
The respective Cell phones do not have this problem using Wi-Fi at another person’s premises or at their workplaces when they are in sleep or standby mode.  
My setup. Will include all I think could be causing problem but may not be pertinent

 

1-Have fibre installed through Spark Max Fibre with Landline.
2-Have Spark Smart Modem 1 VRV9517UWAC34 with connections to 2 switches as had 50 ethernet cat 5e ports wiring into our new built home 12 years ago to future proof!! 24 port Catalyst 2970 series and a Netgear AS108 8 port. Also have setup older modem as an access point via ethernet connection in one of the far rooms of house.
3-Have integrated wiring to monitor existing security and fire alarms via phone line.
4-Have security Arlo camera connected to paid website via Wi-Fi via 2.4 wifi
5-Have smart (Contact Energy) electricity meter connected to house via their own system.
6- Have 4 amazon Alexa devices connected to my wifi.
7-Have 3 Dish TV SmartVu devices attached to TVs connected to my Wi-Fi.
8-Have 1 Amazon Firestik connected to TV connected to my Wi-Fi.
9-Have 2 DVD players and one TV connected to internet via ethernet cable via switches.
10-Have 2 sets of Bose speakers connected to Wi-Fi
11-have up to 5 tables connected to Wi-Fi at a time.
12-Have set of 3 cordless Panasonic phones connected not sure what frequency they use.
13-Have 2 windows 10 pcs connected directly to ethernet cables to internet which work well see below example of speed etc.

 

Devices like tablets and Cell phones connected to Wi-Fi have figures of about Ping 11ms,249Mbps download and 247Mbps Upload.  

 

Things I have done to try and solve problems.

 

1-Reset all modem several times as well as replacing with a new Spark smart 1 Modem 2 weeks ago. Turned off switches and access point and just used modem’s Wi-Fi setting without connecting and LAN outputs.
2-Removed and reinstalled Whatsapp on all phones and even factory reset phones.
3-Googled many times to try and find a solution and followed recommendations to no avail.
4-When connected new Spark smart 1 modem only changed password as directed. Did not change any other settings

 

Summary-Would really like some help to sort this out. I am reasonably tech savvy for a 72-year-old and can follow instructions but am lost on this one.

 

Kind regards DJE


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  #3076890 16-May-2023 17:24
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The second post was my first post in 2022

 

 


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  #3076901 16-May-2023 18:14
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@DJE did you have Net Shield Premium (at extra cost) or just the basic version. In Spark's list of what can be blocked using Net Shield WhatsApp apparently is a custom filter that should require the premium version. Did you even know it was running?

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  #3076902 16-May-2023 18:16
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Turn off Net Shield in your MySpark account. Notifications should come back.





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  #3076909 16-May-2023 19:23
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michaelmurfy:

 

Turn off Net Shield in your MySpark account. Notifications should come back.

 

 

I can't see it in mine - is it something you have to subscribe to?

 


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