'Telecom Fibre Optic Network' line through my farm? [Picture]

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#35266 7-Jun-2009 16:30

Going onto the New Zealand Broadband map, I see one of the only things I could 'get' was Telecom Fibre Optic Network. Is there anyway I can connect to this to have access to Broadband? Even if I run a cable from my house to the Blue line?

(Red dot on picture is where I live, Blue line is the Telecom Fibre Optic Network line) The line actually runs through our farm.

Here's the link to an image of the map. (Zoomed in on Coastal Taranaki area)

http://is.gd/R9zS

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#222474 7-Jun-2009 16:48

No.

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#222499 7-Jun-2009 18:05

As a farmer you no doubt have more skills than MacGyver. Get out there and dig it up, take a length of number 8 wire, a small knife which you no doubt would have in your pocket anyway as all farmers do, a length of string and some duck tape.

Within an hour or so I'm sure you will be connected to the main line, maybe an hour and a half if you have to keep yelling at your dog.

edit: the above advice should only be taken if you are actually a farmer and not a townie with a "lifestyle" farm and a ride on mower.

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#222501 7-Jun-2009 18:27

Dont think so, I would imagine the fibre is laying there dormant, Telecom actually started laying fibre years ago, but again it is dormant at this stage. Who knows, when they start releasing VDSL across NZ you may obtain acess through the fibre running through your farm..

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#222514 7-Jun-2009 19:32

Have you considered a rural provider using wireless or satellite? I know my folks use Scorch (Upper Oxford, Canterbury) and they get a decent connection (not available for you by looks of it though). Otherwise you can't connect to the fibre yet my friend :D

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#222525 7-Jun-2009 20:26

Diggzzy: Who knows, when they start releasing VDSL across NZ you may obtain acess through the fibre running through your farm..

VDSL service is provided over copper wires.

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#222532 7-Jun-2009 20:52

vdsl is over copper, its currently under trial and is probably going to be released in some areas around the end of the year. that fiber is probably backhaul meaning you cant plug into it.

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#222653 8-Jun-2009 12:44

Diggzzy: Dont think so, I would imagine the fibre is laying there dormant, Telecom actually started laying fibre years ago, but again it is dormant at this stage.

Lying dormant you say? What pray do you think provides the backhaul and core network capacity? Just because there is fibre there does not indicate that it is available for customer access, or that there is spare capacity on that fibre.
Perhaps the dormant fibre you are talking about is the abandoned cable tv project of a number of years ago? That stuff is only a very small percentage of fibre actually deployed and I guess some of it is being used for customer access now. I understand that there is a large number of business sites out there with fibre already, some of which I am sure must have utilised that existing fibre.

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#222661 8-Jun-2009 13:04

The fibre probably is the fibre that connects up the various exchanges around the coast. There may be spare capacity on it, and if you had a large enough budget then you certainly could get a fibre connection to your place. Unfortunately the cost of getting this done is rather large, certainly thousands of dollars, and the monthly rental charged by Telecom for a fibre to your place is also a sizable amount. And this is all aditional to paying an ISP for your internet.

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#222689 8-Jun-2009 14:22

marmel: As a farmer you no doubt have more skills than MacGyver. Get out there and dig it up, take a length of number 8 wire, a small knife which you no doubt would have in your pocket anyway as all farmers do, a length of string and some duck tape.

Within an hour or so I'm sure you will be connected to the main line, maybe an hour and a half if you have to keep yelling at your dog.

edit: the above advice should only be taken if you are actually a farmer and not a townie with a "lifestyle" farm and a ride on mower.

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#222739 8-Jun-2009 16:33

Actually it's not that far fetched.

Inspire, FX networks and Digital Nation are very active in the Manawhatu region connecting rural schools and farms. Manawhatu is not Taranaki but fibre to the farm has become a reality in some regions.

Example #1:

Farmers are co-operating to connect through neighboring properties. A farmer can budget on around $4.50 a metre for the fibre and the duct to go across his own land, as long as he is prepared to dig the hole.

http://www.tuanz.org.nz/blog/e379f711-b2b6-4423-9e32-4a8bf9f301db/0f84daad-8337-4be7-8509-51f7490ee0ca.html

Example #2:

Digital Nation, a company that has laid fibre optic cable in its hometown of Palmerston North where the big telcos wouldn't, is working in a partnership with Tararua District Council and FX Networks. They are building an open-access 140km fibre network to connect Dannevirke, Woodville, Pahiatua and Eketahuna with Palmerston North, their telco gateway to the world.

The network will run close to Mangamaire so Digital Nation's founder, James Watts, offered to help the community bring a spur to it and then into their homes. Much of the work on the few kilometres into the community and then around the houses is DIY, with technical help from Watts and friends.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sunday-star-times/business/529432

I'd be getting in touch with your neighbours and then going to these guys (Inspire, FX networks, Digital Nation) and seeing what's possible.

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#222761 8-Jun-2009 17:25

Wouldn't that be interesting? out in the middle of no-where and you have a 1gb fiber connection whilst us out here in the burbs get 7-24 meg...

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#222769 8-Jun-2009 17:48

steveonz:
marmel: As a farmer you no doubt have more skills than MacGyver. Get out there and dig it up, take a length of number 8 wire, a small knife which you no doubt would have in your pocket anyway as all farmers do, a length of string and some duck tape.

Within an hour or so I'm sure you will be connected to the main line, maybe an hour and a half if you have to keep yelling at your dog.

edit: the above advice should only be taken if you are actually a farmer and not a townie with a "lifestyle" farm and a ride on mower.

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1) I'm not a farmer
2) It appears you know nothing about farmers/farming
3) Any farmer would have more life-skills/enginuity than non-farmers.
4) What are you, 10?
5) It seems you don't even know the basics; 'DUCK tape'?? WTF is that (Townies version of 'Duct' but they just hear it and think it's 'DUCK'
6) Funny how you wasted time typing that up to get to no point what so ever just to look like a right arrogance.

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#222781 8-Jun-2009 18:10

Do yourself a favour and look up the definition of humour as the concept is obviously foreign to you.

There are quite often humorous comments made on geekzone as you will see if you hang around for a while. Hopefully you don't take offence at them all.

When you state "the line actually runs through our farm" I don't think it is too much of a struggle for someone to assume you are a farmer or live on a farm.

With regards to knowing something about farming my wife is from a farming family, her father and both brothers are farmers and we spend most weekends at one farm or another helping out where required.

You are correct about the duck/duct tape, my sincere apologies, it won't happen again.

I think most others that have been here a while will draw their own conclusion as to who came off sounding arrogant.

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#222785 8-Jun-2009 18:20

Indeed, a bit of an overreaction to a harmless post that was obviously satirical.

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#222855 8-Jun-2009 23:06

marmel: You are correct about the duck/duct tape, my sincere apologies, it won't happen again.

You both are: http://www.ducttapeguys.com/duckvsduct.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape#Etymology

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