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#41986 27-Sep-2009 16:37

Hi there,

You can dial 0197 on the CDMA network to withhold caller ID, does anyone know the code on the XT network, have tried 0197

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#258727 27-Sep-2009 16:41

You have use the standard GSM feature codes.

#31# before the number you're calling should work.

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#258728 27-Sep-2009 16:44

Thanks sbiddle:- you would have thought to keep it consistent with the previous CDMA network, as even Vodafone uses the same code.

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#258739 27-Sep-2009 17:50

#33# is the standard (or you can use your phone menu to do the same thing) on every GSM or UMTS network anywhere in the world.

The 0197 was just a hack created for Telecom and isn't any sort of standardised code.

The closest you get to a standard in the PSTN world and the code also adopted for VoIP is *67

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#258743 27-Sep-2009 18:04

sbiddle: You have use the standard GSM feature codes.

#31# before the number you're calling should work.

If that is the case isn't it time Telecom changed their instructions which don't specify which mobile network
they apply to. Geekzone postings by yourself and NealR seem to be the only sources of the #31# info.

Whether you regard 0197 as a hack or not it has been in use for over 10 years so changing to something else should have been publicised.

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#258745 27-Sep-2009 18:13

I agree with Delorean and Bung; 0197 should be added as an alternative (while keeping #31# functional).

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#258751 27-Sep-2009 18:29

I don't know why people are needing the codes anyway - every GSM/UMTS handset I've ever used contains menu options for CallerID unlike CDMA which had no network standard code and required the network operator to define one (which is presumably why Telecom opted for 0197)

It'll be interesting to see if Telecom keep 0197 once they move to their NGN voice platform and dump the NEAX switches because *67 is the standard in the rest of the world. One could take a guess and wonder if Telecom are planning to move away from 0197 which could be the reason for not supporting it on XT.

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#258770 27-Sep-2009 20:19

sbiddle: I don't know why people are needing the codes anyway - every GSM/UMTS handset I've ever used contains menu options for CallerID unlike CDMA which had no network standard code and required the network operator to define one (which is presumably why Telecom opted for 0197)

It'll be interesting to see if Telecom keep 0197 once they move to their NGN voice platform and dump the NEAX switches because *67 is the standard in the rest of the world. One could take a guess and wonder if Telecom are planning to move away from 0197 which could be the reason for not supporting it on XT.

Do you want to have to dive into the phone menu just to block CLI on a per call basis?

*67 is a standard in North America, others are 141 UK, 184 Japan, 3651 France so it isn't as simple as saying there is one standard.

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#258771 27-Sep-2009 20:20

The reason given for them making up 0197 was that there were telecom supported pabx's that would let you use a * code to make a toll call from a toll barred extension. So rather then fix all the obsolete pabx's they made up a code that was totally non standard. I guess all those pabx's are now dead so that excuse is nolonger valid.

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#258801 27-Sep-2009 22:33

You can do the code thing before you call or if your phone has the feature for with holding your id use that. like for example on nokia mobile phones you go to settings> then call settings> and there should be an option called (own number sending) under that option it will have (Set by network), (Yes), (No). No = Hide your number yes = show your number. how ever this will apply to all your calls not a call by call Basis. the other way with hold your number is to go on to Tworld on your telecom xt mobile phone click Yourtelecom "its a link" then go to "services" click "manage caller id restriction" and there will be an option saying "off" and another option saying "on" if you click on it will with hold your phone number. note you will receive a text message when this service is active on your account.

to block your number on a call by call basis i believe 0197 works i tryed it , it works for me and im on the xt network.

a little off topic but still useful if you have turned caller id restriction on and you want to show your number on a call by call basis dial 0196 before the number. if you don't dial 0196 before the number it will continue to block your phone number untill you have turn the setting off. this also works on telecom landline phones.

Hope this information is some what helpfull :)

A Few importiant Points to Note the number with hold service will not work on the following services

* 111 Emergency Service's
* Text Messaging
* Picture Messaging

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#258862 28-Sep-2009 08:11

FYI, 197 will so work on Telecom landlines to block caller ID, however when using this code you cannot then dial chargable calls. This is so people with PABXs that blocked chargable calls based on a can't dial a 0 first rule were still able to block ID

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#259629 30-Sep-2009 09:49

@delorean, the Telecom website has been updated to point out that CDMa and XT have different codes for blocking caller Id.

Thanks for letting me know.

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#259712 30-Sep-2009 12:54

NealR: @delorean, the Telecom website has been updated to point out that CDMa and XT have different codes for blocking caller Id.

Thanks for letting me know.

Neal

So much for sbiddle's standard codes or has somebody got it backwards? According to the new instuction #31# unblocks a normally blocked number.

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#259762 30-Sep-2009 15:49

Bung:
NealR: @delorean, the Telecom website has been updated to point out that CDMa and XT have different codes for blocking caller Id.

Thanks for letting me know.

Neal

So much for sbiddle's standard codes or has somebody got it backwards? According to the new instuction #31# unblocks a normally blocked number.

I posted two difference codes aboce by mistake

According to the standard codes #31# should disable CID for a call and *31# should enable CID for a phone that is normally blocked.

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#259796 30-Sep-2009 17:04

sbiddle:
Bung:
NealR: @delorean, the Telecom website has been updated to point out that CDMa and XT have different codes for blocking caller Id.

Thanks for letting me know.

Neal

So much for sbiddle's standard codes or has somebody got it backwards? According to the new instuction #31# unblocks a normally blocked number.

I posted two difference codes aboce by mistake

According to the standard codes #31# should disable CID for a call and *31# should enable CID for a phone that is normally blocked.

Your codes seem to agree with other instructions, it's NealR's new instructions that don't line up.

"To block your mobile number for one call:
To block a specific call, just dial 0197 for mobiles on the CDMA network, or *31# for mobiles on the XT network before entering the number you want to call

To block your mobile for all calls:
Contact Telecom can we can add Number Withhold to your mobile connection, every call you make your mobile number will not show on Caller Display. If you have this service and want to unblock a specific call, dial 0196 for mobiles on the CDMA network or #31# for mobiles on the XT network before entering the number you want to call."

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#259814 30-Sep-2009 17:44

You can also turn this feature on from the your telecom mobile portal

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