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Topic # 60281 23-Apr-2010 13:43
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Do any current/upcoming XT phones use/support micro SIMs?

I suppose users will be expected to fork out to buy a new SIM if we want to use an iPad or new iPhone on XT ?

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  Reply # 322081 23-Apr-2010 13:52
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ahmad: Do any current/upcoming XT phones use/support micro SIMs?

I suppose users will be expected to fork out to buy a new SIM if we want to use an iPad or new iPhone on XT ?


How do you know the new iphone uses a micro SIM?




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  Reply # 322089 23-Apr-2010 14:02
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The iphone accidently left behind in the bar featured this.  Read about it here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apples-next-iphone-what-we-know-and-what-we-dont/ 

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  Reply # 322091 23-Apr-2010 14:04
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It's a prototype device; while I guess that micro SIMs will indeed be used, there's no proof yet.

I'm guessing that a micro SIM will be $30, which isn't really very much when added to the purchase cost of an iPhone. 

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  Reply # 322093 23-Apr-2010 14:08
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My guess is that Apple wont be making a different version of the 3G ipad that uses full size SIM cards so the local Telco's will have to start selling them. Also even if T'com cant sell either the ipad or new iphone, they would be stupid not to sell micro SIMs. Just look at how many users have 3GS iphones on XT (6 at my company).




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  Reply # 322101 23-Apr-2010 14:25
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Telecom has already confirmed that micro SIMs will be available, we just don't know the price.



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  Reply # 322167 23-Apr-2010 17:26
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Have they indicated when? I hope that it in time for iPhone launch.

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  Reply # 322176 23-Apr-2010 18:02
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"To be announced". There were a couple of Twitter posts on the 20th.

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  Reply # 322181 23-Apr-2010 18:16

Micro-SIMs are just regular sims with a smaller board. Just get out your knife and give it a go!

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  Reply # 322222 23-Apr-2010 21:27
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I really think that was a nasty move on Apples part. Once again forcing a change. As the saying goes "if it aint broke, don't fix it". Much like them trying to push HTML5 was it? instead of flash for the ipads. -__-. Why cant they just use some of the worlds standards rather than intentionally being difficult. Do you think Vodafone will be the official seller for 3G ipad? Or will it just come out with a generic model sold at DSE and the likes.




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  Reply # 322257 23-Apr-2010 23:00
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Apple love to use standards that are not conventions, and ignore conventions that don't suit them.

Look at the many different video adapters available for different generations of macbooks, the last sort of commonly used output they put on them was a DVI one, now its all micro displayport or something daft that noone else uses, but there is an adapter to let you plug in something normal.





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  Reply # 322260 23-Apr-2010 23:03
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Because Flash is not a standard and shouldn't be pushed as one? HTML5 is, and should be promoted as a standard.

I think the thing with Apple is that they like to switch to the next big standard early. Case in point, the dropping of floppies from the original iMac. Other examples include HTML5, H.264, LightPeak, DisplayPort, FireWire, USB. They have good intentions, but sometimes it's not for the best and sometimes it doesn't work out.

I don't really see the need to switch to micro SIMs.

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  Reply # 322267 23-Apr-2010 23:32
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They will really really stump on their international sales for iPad 3G + WiFi because in the US T-Mobile and AT&T currently have micro-sims on the way so they get lucky there and there was a forum here on geekzone saying telecom XT is rumoured to have them come out soon. But will all telco's start phasing in this new sim faster only because the iPad is coming out? Theres no big difference from what I can see. Plus we struggle now from loosing the current sims, whats it going to be like with ones half the size D: and the only thing I can think of that was useful that apple started using was the magnetic power plugs, that come out easy so the computer doesnt get dragged when someone gets their foot caught on the power cord. :D




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  Reply # 322368 24-Apr-2010 14:05
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tardtasticx: They will really really stump on their international sales for iPad 3G + WiFi because in the US T-Mobile and AT&T currently have micro-sims on the way so they get lucky there and there was a forum here on geekzone saying telecom XT is rumoured to have them come out soon. But will all telco's start phasing in this new sim faster only because the iPad is coming out? Theres no big difference from what I can see. Plus we struggle now from loosing the current sims, whats it going to be like with ones half the size D: and the only thing I can think of that was useful that apple started using was the magnetic power plugs, that come out easy so the computer doesnt get dragged when someone gets their foot caught on the power cord. :D


From what I read there is nothing different apart from Form Factor between the Micro Sim and Regular Mini Sim's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subscriber_Identity_Module

The micro-SIM was created with backwards compatibility in mind. The major issue with backwards compatibility was the contact area of the chip. Retaining the same contact area allows the micro-SIM to be compatible with the previous, larger SIM readers through the use of plastic cutout surrounds. The micro-SIM was also designed to run at the same speed (5 MHz) as the previous version.


So why not just get an old disconnected CDMA Phone, get a number put on it for free.  Ask for it to get moved across onto XT (which means they will give you a free Sim Card).  And then very carefully deal to it with a stanly knife.  And if you screw up the sim go and get another phone number on the CDMA phone and repeat ;).

But I am sure Telecom will come out with one, sooner or later.





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  Reply # 322385 24-Apr-2010 15:12
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zkcow: Because Flash is not a standard and shouldn't be pushed as one? HTML5 is, and should be promoted as a standard.

I think the thing with Apple is that they like to switch to the next big standard early. Case in point, the dropping of floppies from the original iMac. Other examples include HTML5, H.264, LightPeak, DisplayPort, FireWire, USB. They have good intentions, but sometimes it's not for the best and sometimes it doesn't work out.

I don't really see the need to switch to micro SIMs.


Great post - flash isn't a standard and shouldn't be treated as one.

I think the move to micro SIM is due to the unnessecary space the normal sims take. Sim cards are highly inefficient, their are microSD cards the same size of a SIM car which can store 16gb+ of data.

Within the highly competitve mobile market I'm sure engineers are fighting to fit as much as they can into a mobile phone/device. And its not like switching to micro SIM is such a big hassle or has a large financial cost involved.

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Great post - flash isn't a standard and shouldn't be treated as one.

I think the move to micro SIM is due to the unnessecary space the normal sims take. Sim cards are highly inefficient, their are microSD cards the same size of a SIM car which can store 16gb+ of data.

Within the highly competitve mobile market I'm sure engineers are fighting to fit as much as they can into a mobile phone/device. And its not like switching to micro SIM is such a big hassle or has a large financial cost involved.

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Google for the FCC tear down of the iPad and all the other tear downs on the internet and you'll see how much space they have. They managed it with the iPhone. They can surly manage it on this upsized iPod touch




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