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graemeh: I wonder how much of the gear will just remain in place. They will only remove it if it makes economic sense to do so (e.g. they need the space for something else).They could do what they do in the US to disguise their cell towers, turn them into random buildings or things. like in one town they disguise them as Light Houses, the ones on the shores, except these are in the city and look out of place the none the less awesome :D
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They could do what they do in the US to disguise their cell towers, turn them into random buildings or things. like in one town they disguise them as Light Houses, the ones on the shores, except these are in the city and look out of place the none the less awesome :D
munchkin: Orange/Hutchinson/3 in Australia left their CDMA gear running, and in many places, it's still operational; The Whirlpool forums have many threads where it's been noted that for several years it was used internally. Unfortunately all connection attempts by invalid ESN's are bounced back.
The new VHA has started repurposing the frequency for WCDMA in some areas (IIRC, at this stage only state capitals) according to Whirlpool and my iPhone, too. Makes sense as they have a whole bunch of 3 customers with Mega-G handsets as well as their iPhone users.
Irony of all ironies, Telecom NZ owned some 850MHz spectrum in Australia through AAPT, which then sold it to Orange for the use in their CDMA network, which is now owned by Vodafone.
nzbnw:
Yep also read that one where VFAU customers are using 850MHz only 3G handsets and getting 3G on VFAU. Doesn't seem to be available to '3' customers.
nzbnw:
As far as Telecom NZ is concerned, I don't think any money changed hands for the AAPT frequency, it had something to do with Telecom's holding in HTAL IIRC.
Also Vodafone is a JV between Vodafone (Pacific?) and Hutchinson; of which Telecom own's 5% (via 10% of Hutchinson IIRC), so not entirely owned by VF (50%).
nzbnw
KiwiSurfer: I've been told that with Telecom turned off TDMA they just left most of the gear in place. When XT was being rolled out the guys installing XT gear were apparently also responsible for removing the TDMA gear when room was required on the tower and/or in the base station shelter.
I would guess the same would be the case here. Not much point in going to all the effort to remove the CDMA gear when there's no harm just turning them off and leaving it where it is for now. I guess when Telecom moves to LTE they'll look at switching the CDMA gear out to make room for the LTE gear.
- James
BarTender:KiwiSurfer: I've been told that with Telecom turned off TDMA they just left most of the gear in place. When XT was being rolled out the guys installing XT gear were apparently also responsible for removing the TDMA gear when room was required on the tower and/or in the base station shelter.
I would guess the same would be the case here. Not much point in going to all the effort to remove the CDMA gear when there's no harm just turning them off and leaving it where it is for now. I guess when Telecom moves to LTE they'll look at switching the CDMA gear out to make room for the LTE gear.
- James
I've seen the non-prod CDMA radio gear and the XT radio gear side by side in Wellington. And the CDMA stuff is about 4 - 5 times larger in footprint (think 8 racks side by side) than the XT (one - two racks). The only things that don't get sigificantly smaller are the panels up on the towers, and to a lesser degree the transmitters.
So I would guess there is very little point moving large and heavy equipment out of a site unless you needed the space, or it was worth your while financially to do it. The power costs, and all the backend infrastructure needed to run a mobile network would mean I doubt there was much value in any of the equipment anymore, unless another telco that is still running the same gear wanted spares.
One could also take a punt that the LTE stuff will be smaller still.
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