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#849580 5-Jul-2013 10:54

Anyone else noticed that the picture has been a little more fuzzy than usual ofer the last couple of days?

Not blocky or pixelated, but slightly off-focus.

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#849819 5-Jul-2013 17:18

Benoire: Nope only MHEG5 certified devices will be able to use the interactive functions. Open Source PC TV applications have not cracked the requirements for interactive services yet.

MythTV has an MHEG5 stack that works with most of the standard freeview features, excluding the PVR code.

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#849821 5-Jul-2013 17:28

openmedia:
Benoire: Nope only MHEG5 certified devices will be able to use the interactive functions. Open Source PC TV applications have not cracked the requirements for interactive services yet.

MythTV has an MHEG5 stack that works with most of the standard freeview features, excluding the PVR code.

Does it now? I never realised that! Pretty cool! Presume by exclude PVR code means that you can't run PVR functions on the stack outside of the standard transmitted data?

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#849822 5-Jul-2013 17:28

openmedia:
Benoire: Nope only MHEG5 certified devices will be able to use the interactive functions. Open Source PC TV applications have not cracked the requirements for interactive services yet.

MythTV has an MHEG5 stack that works with most of the standard freeview features, excluding the PVR code.

Does it now? I never realised that! Pretty cool! Presume by exclude PVR code means that you can't run PVR functions on the stack outside of the standard transmitted data?

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#849824 5-Jul-2013 17:30

Benoire:
openmedia:
Benoire: Nope only MHEG5 certified devices will be able to use the interactive functions. Open Source PC TV applications have not cracked the requirements for interactive services yet.

MythTV has an MHEG5 stack that works with most of the standard freeview features, excluding the PVR code.

Does it now? I never realised that! Pretty cool! Presume by exclude PVR code means that you can't run PVR functions on the stack outside of the standard transmitted data?

The MHEG code asks for your supported feature set on running. Currently Myth TV's stack doesn't set the flag to enable the PVR support as I didn't have the time to work on it. The changes to support the NZ Freeview specification for the EPG was relatively minor and we had it running before Freeview launched on Satellite.

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#849841 5-Jul-2013 18:04

Steve, does the MHEG5 code run on the front end or the server?

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#849888 5-Jul-2013 19:44

Benoire: Steve, does the MHEG5 code run on the front end or the server?

Front end.

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#849893 5-Jul-2013 20:02

Ok, so it runs on the front end but it requires an active tuned channel running on the back end? Presume that if the flags where set correctly for PVR it would then record the selected data, or would it just grab all the data on that stream?

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#850347 7-Jul-2013 10:29

The MHEG5 thing, is that just the EPG or the ability to watch? My Panny BR/HD recorder doesn't have that I think

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#850349 7-Jul-2013 10:34

Whole shebang. If you dont have mheg5 capability then you probably will see only 1 stream. People with media centres will be the same for the most part.

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#850350 7-Jul-2013 10:38

Benoire: Whole shebang. If you dont have mheg5 capability then you probably will see only 1 stream. People with media centres will be the same for the most part.

Tks Benoire. What do you mean by one stream?

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#850352 7-Jul-2013 10:46

Mheg5 is effectively a way to run interactive programs on your tv. The most common apllication is a front end with it pulling various hidden streams for different programs, in sommets case it will be an interactive menu to select various sports from one channel. It appears that myth tv can do this and mediaportal 2 might be able too but mheg5 is generally only supported by fredview accredited units.

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#850582 7-Jul-2013 23:53

Benoire: Mheg5 is effectively a way to run interactive programs on your tv. The most common apllication is a front end with it pulling various hidden streams for different programs, in sommets case it will be an interactive menu to select various sports from one channel. It appears that myth tv can do this and mediaportal 2 might be able too but mheg5 is generally only supported by fredview accredited units.

Where are you getting your info? Sommet are very hush hush about how it will work. Or is this common in other parts of the world? Don't see how they could have multiple video streams given the available bandwidth. If there is an A/V stream there surly any device can watch it unless it is encrypted. If the MHEG provides all the overlays like score, time etc then I guess watching the game might not be as good without that info.

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#850589 8-Jul-2013 06:17

mcraenz:
Benoire: Mheg5 is effectively a way to run interactive programs on your tv. The most common apllication is a front end with it pulling various hidden streams for different programs, in sommets case it will be an interactive menu to select various sports from one channel. It appears that myth tv can do this and mediaportal 2 might be able too but mheg5 is generally only supported by fredview accredited units.

Where are you getting your info? Sommet are very hush hush about how it will work. Or is this common in other parts of the world? Don't see how they could have multiple video streams given the available bandwidth. If there is an A/V stream there surly any device can watch it unless it is encrypted. If the MHEG provides all the overlays like score, time etc then I guess watching the game might not be as good without that info.

This type of setup is very common in many parts of the world, AKA the "red button". Sky News AU for example lets you view multiple views and services such as weather which are all video based services.

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#850617 8-Jul-2013 08:17

MccraeNZ, it was from various bits I've read about Sommet, but people make an interesting point about there not being enough muxs available for new streams, unless they go internet connection required.

MHEG-5 is designed to operate how SBiddle has stated. It effectively runs mini applications that are constructed from the data streams and can do a variety of things including games, text, overlays and switch to 'hidden' streams for multi channel choices. It's quite a neat way of providing multiple games/programs via a single front facing channel.

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