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Yolo2019

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#2207292 29-Mar-2019 20:02

corksta: Why do you need 100-200Mb for upload?

You talked about streaming but as above 100/20 is more than enough for streaming, there’s a problem with your setup.

Sorry, I used the wrong units, my real upload speed is 2MB/s. my fibre plan is 100mbps download and 20mbps upload😅

Yolo2019

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#2207315 29-Mar-2019 20:12

Jase2985:

the adapter can only receive or transmit at a single moment, so its aggregated over both.

you mention streaming, so why do you need 100-200Mbps for upload?

My current upload speed is 20mbps/s which is equivalent to 2MB/s, for high quality video gaming is not enough because I've already tried. so I guess I will need 5MB/S-10MB/s or even more.

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#2207367 29-Mar-2019 21:05

ummmm which "high quality video gaming" are you talking about?

a 4k netflix stream needs 25Mbps download (3.125 MB/s) there is unlikely to be much out there that requires more data than that.

again what are you uploading?

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#2207373 29-Mar-2019 21:32

Jase2985:

ummmm which "high quality video gaming" are you talking about?

a 4k netflix stream needs 25Mbps download (3.125 MB/s) there is unlikely to be much out there that requires more data than that.

again what are you uploading?

I run Parsec myself and it will happily chew through a 100Mbps upstream link. But that's just me. You don't need anywhere near 20Mbps upstream to be able to stream Netflix, Prime Video, or really anything in HD/4k.

A little OT, but to put things in perspective: Each of our mirrors currently uses around 20Mbps upstream consistently with bursts to 1Gbps, and we consistently push around 30T across the network each month.

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#2207374 29-Mar-2019 21:41

Yolo2019:

Jase2985:

the adapter can only receive or transmit at a single moment, so its aggregated over both.

you mention streaming, so why do you need 100-200Mbps for upload?

My current upload speed is 20mbps/s which is equivalent to 2MB/s, for high quality video gaming is not enough because I've already tried. so I guess I will need 5MB/S-10MB/s or even more.

As others have said... 20Mbps (~2-2.5Megabytes/sec) is easily enough for very high quality streaming in 1080P or 4k...

If you're having problems now then unless you are doing uncompressed video backhaul (You're not), going to a faster line won't help. You should explain what you're actually doing and see if we can find out what else is causing the problems.

Cheers - N

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#2207378 29-Mar-2019 22:02

Jase2985:

ummmm which "high quality video gaming" are you talking about?

a 4k netflix stream needs 25Mbps download (3.125 MB/s) there is unlikely to be much out there that requires more data than that.

again what are you uploading?

Talkiet:

As others have said... 20Mbps (~2-2.5Megabytes/sec) is easily enough for very high quality streaming in 1080P or 4k...

If you're having problems now then unless you are doing uncompressed video backhaul (You're not), going to a faster line won't help. You should explain what you're actually doing and see if we can find out what else is causing the problems.

Cheers - N

I'm going to do at a minimum of 1080P 60fps PUBG streaming yeah, of course, might do 4K in the future depends on how things going.

plus my pc is I7 4790K and video card Gtx 1070,

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#2207380 29-Mar-2019 22:06

About 6megabits (0.75-ish megabytes/sec) is required for good 1080P streaming. If you're unable to stream at that rate at the moment, then the issue is not going to be resolved b y going to a faster upload. You already have 20 upload, you need 6... Even accounting for gaming traffic, there's HEAPS of headroom there.

Many people find 60fps too challenging for their PC and for the recommended bandwidths. I understand the desire to want higher resolution and bitrate, but I would rather watch a smooth 720p/60 than a bad 1080/60 ANY DAY.

4K will be higher of course, but you should solve whatever's stopping you stream at 1080 first before deciding to fix it by getting a faster upload.

Cheers N

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#2207388 29-Mar-2019 22:25

Talkiet:

About 6megabits (0.75-ish megabytes/sec) is required for good 1080P streaming. If you're unable to stream at that rate at the moment, then the issue is not going to be resolved b y going to a faster upload. You already have 20 upload, you need 6... Even accounting for gaming traffic, there's HEAPS of headroom there.

Many people find 60fps too challenging for their PC and for the recommended bandwidths. I understand the desire to want higher resolution and bitrate, but I would rather watch a smooth 720p/60 than a bad 1080/60 ANY DAY.

4K will be higher of course, but you should solve whatever's stopping you stream at 1080 first before deciding to fix it by getting a faster upload.

Cheers N

True, I'm currently streaming on a Chinese streaming platform. maybe this is the reason?

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#2207389 29-Mar-2019 22:29

Yolo2019:

Talkiet:

About 6megabits (0.75-ish megabytes/sec) is required for good 1080P streaming. If you're unable to stream at that rate at the moment, then the issue is not going to be resolved b y going to a faster upload. You already have 20 upload, you need 6... Even accounting for gaming traffic, there's HEAPS of headroom there.

Many people find 60fps too challenging for their PC and for the recommended bandwidths. I understand the desire to want higher resolution and bitrate, but I would rather watch a smooth 720p/60 than a bad 1080/60 ANY DAY.

4K will be higher of course, but you should solve whatever's stopping you stream at 1080 first before deciding to fix it by getting a faster upload.

Cheers N

True, I'm currently streaming on a Chinese streaming platform. maybe this is the reason?

Yes, very likely. Latency can have a very bad affect on simplistic (non CDN, single thread) streaming solutions... There are also other things I couldn't explain that may impact it as well. You should try a few different streaming options to see if your access link can keep up. Try streaming to youtube for example at 1080P. I suspect it will be perfect.

Cheers - N

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#2207392 29-Mar-2019 22:35

Talkiet:

Yes, very likely. Latency can have a very bad affect on simplistic (non CDN, single thread) streaming solutions... There are also other things I couldn't explain that may impact it as well. You should try a few different streaming options to see if your access link can keep up. Try streaming to youtube for example at 1080P. I suspect it will be perfect.

Cheers - N

Sweet, I'll try it on Youtube or twitch to see how it performs haha, thanks Talkiet and all the people here been helping and answering my questions :) appreciate !!!!

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#2211009 4-Apr-2019 23:00

Hi, thanks for all the people who answered my questions. Luckily I did try streaming on Twitch and the OBS tells me that the recommended stream set up is 6000 bitrate at 1080P 60fps according to my internet speed. don't need to upgrade to fibre max plan :).

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