The cables themselves, sure, but the rest of it needs replacing regularly.

quickymart:

 

They've had their cable network in place for around 20 years though, I imagine it's probably paid for itself by now?

 

VF have only owned the cable network for 4 years - it was in a run-down state when they bought it, and they have spent a lot of money upgrading it.

They'll want some return on their investment for several years to come.

Good point - I guess I was thinking more of when it was under TCL's control (and Telstra Saturn/Saturn/earlier reincarnations). But I thought Vodafone took it over in 2012? 7 years ago?

quickymart:

 

Good point - I guess I was thinking more of when it was under TCL's control (and Telstra Saturn/Saturn/earlier reincarnations).

 

But I thought Vodafone took it over in 2012? 7 years ago?

 

I stand corrected.  🙃

TelstaClear was acquired by Vodafone New Zealand in October 2012.

The ageing cable network was in pretty bad shape, specially in our suburb (Island Bay).

I've just resigned on the HFC network for two years getting upgraded next week to Fibre X Max, VOIP for phone, unlimited national toll calls, 5x best mates, free twin pack of panasonic cordless phones with answer machine for $83 per month.

ajw:

 

I've just resigned on the HFC network for two years getting upgraded next week to Fibre X Max, VOIP for phone, unlimited national toll calls, 5x best mates, free twin pack of panasonic cordless phones with answer machine for $83 per month.

 

I'm confused.

"FibreX Max" is on the Hybrid Fibre Coaxial (HFC) cable network.

Do you mean that you upgraded to UFB "real" fibre?

So, once VoIP has become the norm, are there any cool or crazy uses that the old telephone wiring and jacks in a house can be put to? 🤓

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ajw:

 

I've just resigned on the HFC network for two years getting upgraded next week to Fibre X Max, VOIP for phone, unlimited national toll calls, 5x best mates, free twin pack of panasonic cordless phones with answer machine for $83 per month.

 

 

I'm confused.

"FibreX Max" is on the Hybrid Fibre Coaxial (HFC) cable network.

 

Do you mean that you upgraded to UFB "real" fibre?

 

No UFB real fibre in my street yet. 

Rickles:

 

So, once VoIP has become the norm, are there any cool or crazy uses that the old telephone wiring and jacks in a house can be put to? 🤓

 

Ornaments.

ajw:

 

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ajw:

 

I've just resigned on the HFC network for two years getting upgraded next week to Fibre X Max, VOIP for phone, unlimited national toll calls, 5x best mates, free twin pack of panasonic cordless phones with answer machine for $83 per month.

 

 

I'm confused.

"FibreX Max" is on the Hybrid Fibre Coaxial (HFC) cable network.

 

Do you mean that you upgraded to UFB "real" fibre?

 

 

No UFB real fibre in my street yet. 

 

Thanks  - I was confused by "resigned" vs "re-signed", which have opposite meanings here.  😊

I'm also on "FibreX Max", but with a copper landline.

Please let us know if the speed upgrade makes any real difference - I upgraded from FibreX 200 to FibreX Max, and apart from spectacular speed tests (below), this made no difference to real-world performance.

Please let us know how well the VOIP works.

     >Please let us know if the speed upgrade makes any real difference - I upgraded from FibreX 200 to FibreX Max, and apart from spectacular speed tests (below), this made no difference to real-world performance.<

I too would be interested to hear of any views or opinions re this.

Rickles:

 

So, once VoIP has become the norm, are there any cool or crazy uses that the old telephone wiring and jacks in a house can be put to? 🤓

 

Unless its cat5 or better, then not really. If it can be done over low quality old cable, it can be done better over wireless IME.

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quickymart:

 

...  I wonder how many people actually connect up to cable these days?

 

I know Chorus connect dozens of properties to fibre every day, but how many people actually connect up to cable now?  ...

 

 

Very few, I would imagine.

 

I'm on "FibreX Max" HFC in a "cable" suburb of Wellington, which is getting fibre late this year.

 

VF have recently upgraded their cable network here, presumably to reduce the number of defections to "real fibre".

 

There's a brand-new optical node outside my house - cable performance is now good, and cable is relatively cheap.

 

I still intend to switch to UFB at the earliest opportunity, for two reasons - to escape from VF, and for a technical upgrade - I'm a geek.

 

Non-geeks will probably stay with cable - at least for a while.

 

If they phone VF to ask for an upgrade to UFB, they will probably be talked out of it, or even told that this is not an option.  (VF make more profit with cable as they own the network).

 

If you want to leave cable, you really need to leave VF.

 

Yes, agreed. 

But.

I'm on the Vodafone Cable (currently unlimited FibreX200 & Voice), and have been with the cable since the TelstraClear days, and simply put, it's still a very good deal.

For a little bit over $170 a month, I'm getting the Sky Starter, Sky Entertainment and Sky Sport channels, plus the FibreX and phone, and a Big back yard thing too. Included in the monthly charge is the 'free' TelstraClear Tbox (yes, still a TelstraClear branded one too)

To go somewhere else, and keep the Sky channels, the Sky TV alone would be $103.48 a month, meaning the net cost would need to come in around the $70 a month. And although I haven't done a lot of looking around, I doubt I can get a unlimited Fibre and phone for $70.

I'm not interested in going with a power company broadband & power deal, as my current Electricity plan is very good too.

So, the Vodafone cable may not be as fast as the true fibre, but given the choice of potentially paying more for fibre or sticking it out on the cable, I'll stay put.

WyleECoyoteNZ:

 

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quickymart:

 

...  I wonder how many people actually connect up to cable these days?

 

I know Chorus connect dozens of properties to fibre every day, but how many people actually connect up to cable now?  ...

 

 

Very few, I would imagine.

 

I'm on "FibreX Max" HFC in a "cable" suburb of Wellington, which is getting fibre late this year.

 

VF have recently upgraded their cable network here, presumably to reduce the number of defections to "real fibre".

 

There's a brand-new optical node outside my house - cable performance is now good, and cable is relatively cheap.

 

I still intend to switch to UFB at the earliest opportunity, for two reasons - to escape from VF, and for a technical upgrade - I'm a geek.

 

Non-geeks will probably stay with cable - at least for a while.

 

If they phone VF to ask for an upgrade to UFB, they will probably be talked out of it, or even told that this is not an option.  (VF make more profit with cable as they own the network).

 

If you want to leave cable, you really need to leave VF.

 

 

Yes, agreed. 

 

But.

 

I'm on the Vodafone Cable (currently unlimited FibreX200 & Voice), and have been with the cable since the TelstraClear days, and simply put, it's still a very good deal.

 

For a little bit over $170 a month, I'm getting the Sky Starter, Sky Entertainment and Sky Sport channels, plus the FibreX and phone, and a Big back yard thing too. Included in the monthly charge is the 'free' TelstraClear Tbox (yes, still a TelstraClear branded one too)

 

To go somewhere else, and keep the Sky channels, the Sky TV alone would be $103.48 a month, meaning the net cost would need to come in around the $70 a month. And although I haven't done a lot of looking around, I doubt I can get a unlimited Fibre and phone for $70.

 

I'm not interested in going with a power company broadband & power deal, as my current Electricity plan is very good too.

 

So, the Vodafone cable may not be as fast as the true fibre, but given the choice of potentially paying more for fibre or sticking it out on the cable, I'll stay put.

 

Ditto, I'm getting excellent pricing, speeds, and reliability from the HFC Docsis 3.1 network. Even when UFB is available in my street I've seen enough photos and articles in Geekzone and other publications concerning bad installations puts me off from getting it installed in my property.