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  #3379762 2-Jun-2025 10:50
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The mobile telco market is evolving - the Big 3 network owners are rapidly moving away from individual account service, they're interested in big company fleets & virtual network providers, not Joe Public & their $20 prepay vouchers. Individuals, families & small business users aren't being lost to the Big 3 when they move provider, they end up using the same networks under a different brand. Your money still ends up in their bank account, just less of it but attracting far less internal overhead cost.

The virtual networks provide substantially better plan value for individuals / small groups. One NZ, 2DM, Spark would far rather look after 20 virtual network business clients with 10,000 users each (that the virtual network provider supports) than 200,000 prepay / pay monthly account holders all requiring full service support.

Although it's galling to have your X years loyalty dismissed without hesitation, having an identical replacement service cost you 50% less soon soothes the butt-hurt.

Evolution of mobile telco service - I was Bell South Foundation 200, on board from day 1 because Keith Davies, the original CEO bought a Jaguar XJS cabriolet from me & asked if I'd help grow the network. A free new phone arrived every 2-3 months for a year or so & service was free for the first 24 months too - this is before txt messages were even available. Service was initially tragic as they worked out where they needed to install towers.

When Vodafone bought BS, they introduced txt services but missed some gaping holes in account payment security. For 2 more years I could send a monthly txt to a 3-digit shortcode which would clear my account. Like magic but not really magic. I remember the shock & disappointment when they finally started leasing the 3-digit numbers to ringtone sellers - my private account-clearing txt replied asking me to confirm my ringtone purchase. Nope, don't want that.

There were other hacks that followed, dialling a landline number to get endless recurring IOU credit - Vodafone didn't ever get much money from me. I'm back using their network now, but at 35% of what they charge individuals who want to pay them direct because Kogan is that much cheaper but uses One NZ infrastructure.

Mobile phones are still a fairly new technology, the major players are evolving in a not-unexpected manner.




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  #3379788 2-Jun-2025 12:08
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Good insightful read, loved reading some of that cheers.

 

1024kb: The mobile telco market is evolving .... Like magic but not really magic


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  #3381270 6-Jun-2025 14:30
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nicmair:

 

I'm hoping that (maybe naively) someone at One.NZ would care enough to reach out to see what went wrong so maybe they can learn from it. Would I stay as a result of someone reaching out, I guess that depends on One.NZ...

 

 

Well - FWIW I care. I'm not on here regularly enough, but happy to listen if you want to PM me.

 

I'm not badged up on GZ, but I'm at One NZ.




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  #3381405 6-Jun-2025 19:02
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@nicmair be very careful and do not disclose personal information, including account details to anyone on Geekzone that doesn't have a company badge - unless you can positively identify a the person works for the company they claim to work for.

 

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  #3381564 7-Jun-2025 14:15
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FWIW

 

JasonParis was someone who was suggested that maybe worked at Voda/ONE but we wrote to him and he doesn't seem to log on here at GZ anyway.. he may/may not actually work at Voda/ONE we have no idea

 

AdamGZ was also someone like (above) but he did write back, and kudos to him too, thanks AdamGZ, you're the only positive in all of our experience, again, chur (just AdamGZ)

 

Unsure how to tell, where's the company badge exactly, that Mauricio is talking about

 

Also, thanks for that, can't be too sure these days, even on GZ, due diligence etc


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  #3381565 7-Jun-2025 14:17
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@harlansmart Did you email Jason Paris or just send him a DM here on Geekzone?

 

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  #3381572 7-Jun-2025 15:05
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Thats an interesting observation, @1024kb

 

My customer service interactions with One on both chat and voice have always been great. But its the nickel and diming and 'Sparkification' (eg. introducing 30 days notice for mobile plans and clawing back 'lifetime' discounts) which is really causing me to think twice about keeping as much business with One as we've had. At our peak as a consumer, we had 9 mobiles and 2 fibre services on a single account with One. At the time, they were awesome and really keen to onboard us, however over the years it feels that their eagerness has been evaporating. 

 

It is sad as it means that we're starting to play the MVNO game as that seems to be where all the value is. The first batch were successfully moved over to Kogan and we will probably cease having any direct One NZ services by end of September. The fibre services will probably be moved to a local NZ provider (eg. Quic) or something similar at some point. 

 

During my accounts tenure at One, I did reach out to JP once or twice (and had prompt service) but I think my last email went unanswered.

 

I do hope that some innovations on the other side of the ditch get adopted in NZ, namely 'Upfront' postpaid plans. These are effectively 'month to month' plans (no proration, no 30 day notice) that are typically 'all-inclusive', eg. endless mobile, unlimited SMS and voice... with no possibility of overage or shock bills. Both Optus and Telstra are offering them and they're a fantastic construct in my opinion. Interestingly, a number of providers also do this on their NBN/Opticomm services too. 





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  #3381587 7-Jun-2025 16:14
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harlansmart: ... Unsure how to tell, where's the company badge exactly, that Mauricio is talking about ...

 

Like so ...

 





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  #3381812 8-Jun-2025 21:38
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@harlansmart Did One NZ discount their plans? What sort of deal did they give you?

 

 


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  #3381814 8-Jun-2025 21:48
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No,

 

We were unable to ever pass their CS Authentication requirements, they didn't believe we were us, others have had similar experiences as you can read here on GZ ... so last weekend we just simply gave up, and that day joined up with another outfit. Bit weird after paying them for decades, since the Mid 1990's in their various guises ... they didn't seem to give a stuff lol**..

 

But if you want help suggest you try maybe AdamGZ** he was the only unit in the outfit who seemed to have any idea of reality, he actually replied to our enquiry, in person, humanly, and in English, he seemed like he would have been of great assistance (just too late for us as it happens... we did try to reach them for over a year however) - many many hours wasted on the phone to them

 

FWIW: We don't care about money, not even the money they doubled charges us over, just peace of mind and its actually cheaper to look around, some of our accounts will be charged only a third to a half of what they were billing us !

 

Good Luck with them !

 

 

 

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@harlansmart Did One NZ discount their plans? What sort of deal did they give you?

 

 

 


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  #3381862 8-Jun-2025 21:55
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@harlansmart It's interesting that they didn't discount your plans or offer to get you back on board. I was curious if talking to someone with more seniority would help but it seems they are not interested in meeting the market. I left my One NZ Pay Monthly in May after they cancelled my plan and proposed moving me to a significantly more expensive one; so I went to Kogan. Quite stupid because they've lost at least 70% revenue from me and I had been a customer for nearly 15 years.


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  #3381873 8-Jun-2025 22:50
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yeah um, not too sure mates,

 

We could just not even get back the accidental double payments, when they changed the name from Voda > ONE we paid both of them, maybe thats out fault. we wear that, no drama, if they had a single 1 sense of decency they'd have refunded the double payments, we emailed them many many many  times and called many many many many times however they were actually, and provably for us, impossibly to engage with, infuriating to say the least - some of our plans had tripled in cost, they were old plans, but each time they changed our plans we got less, and each time, they charged more, spastic

 

You guys, yeah a 15 Years customer ...  we were over double that, that made no difference, they could not even authenticate us, spastic

 

Not sure what the rules are, if you message me us, we'll tell you who we moved all our accounts to etc no drama :) 

 

 

 

Asteros:

 

@harlansmart It's interesting that they didn't discount your plans or offer to get you back on board. I was curious if talking to someone with more seniority would help but it seems they are not interested in meeting the market. I left my One NZ Pay Monthly in May after they cancelled my plan and proposed moving me to a significantly more expensive one; so I went to Kogan. Quite stupid because they've lost at least 70% revenue from me and I had been a customer for nearly 15 years.

 


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  #3382095 9-Jun-2025 13:06
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@harlansmart Thanks for the offer Harlan. So far Kogan is OK. It's running on the One NZ 5g network so no real change. I'll give it a year and then reevaluate. I think One NZ is making a big strategic mistake so it wouldn't surprise me if they change tack in the near future and I jump back on board.


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  #3383629 13-Jun-2025 12:37
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Thought I'd give am update.

 

 

 

After successfully porting away, we had bill shock to see an early termination fee on the next invoice, (the service change was a One.NZ initiated change relating to the 3G shutdown), anyway, given my previous experience trying to talk to One.NZ about this account, I went to the local store, (Dunedin), expecting the same frustrating and dismissive interaction, BUT to their credit, both Dylan and his offsider (sorry didn't get his name, but I suspect he was the Manager) provided exceptional service, and nothing was an issue, and the matter was dealt with in a friendly and efficient manner.

 

Anyone here from One.NZ that sees this, please again pass on my thanks to both Dylan and his offsider for the professional friendly service today.        


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