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kaiwai
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  #89113 2-Oct-2007 17:36
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scottjpalmer: Broadband and VOIP with no HomeLine service from Telecom.

Best bit = no Telecom bill


With that, you get rid of the landline (no bill with Telecom)?

For me, I'm looking at the same thing; if I can drop the phone altogether and just have DSL - I'm happy to use my mobile phone for my primary telephone device.



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  #89123 2-Oct-2007 18:17
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Exactly Kaiwai, you pay for the copper wire to carry the adsl into your house but not the "phone" service so you have no phone number, can't make or receive calls, etc.

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  #89157 2-Oct-2007 20:12
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scottjpalmer: Exactly Kaiwai, you pay for the copper wire to carry the adsl into your house but not the "phone" service so you have no phone number, can't make or receive calls, etc.


Mild confirmation; you can actually get naked DSL right now? WorldxChange is offering that?



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  #89165 2-Oct-2007 20:36
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Nope, no one can offer it yet, but it is very close

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  #89166 2-Oct-2007 20:49
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scottjpalmer: Nope, no one can offer it yet, but it is very close


Cool, I was getting excited there for a moment. Believe me, there will be a giant celebration at my house on the day it occurs :)

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  #89359 3-Oct-2007 21:28
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Phil, please count me in as a trial customer. Both my wife and I are engineers so neither of us will scream at you if there is a problem. Surely that must be a bonus for you! Our phone line is also not a critical connection, so no one will be upset if there are problems.




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  #89619 5-Oct-2007 11:52
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We are currently renovating a house, and living with the outlaws. We don't have a phone line at the address, and plan to move in towards the end of October/Early November, and would be interested in getting UBA with VFX, rather than a standard line.

 
 
 

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  #89649 5-Oct-2007 14:06
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Can someone tell me the benefits of naked dsl+voip [vfx] if the cost is approx the same as having dsl+landline ?




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  #89651 5-Oct-2007 14:11
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xlinknz: Can someone tell me the benefits of naked dsl+voip [vfx] if the cost is approx the same as having dsl+landline ?

I've only been looking at this for 2 days but as far as I can tell, if it is the same price:

Pros:
* Cheaper access to "smartphone features" such as call minder, notification, forwarding, conference calls, etc. - when I say cheap, VFX offers these for free (currently)
* Cheaper 2nd line if you want one
* No Telecom bill (if that matters)

Cons:
* ?Less reliable service
* Cost of ATA and rewiring of home if you wish to use more than one jackpoint

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  #89670 5-Oct-2007 16:38
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At the moment there is 16 features I counted which are included in the $11.25 a month for the service. Some of these services like anonymous call rejection, call return and maybe one or two others are not available on telecoms POTS service. Besides that is the cheap calls like for example it is 5c a minute to anywhere in NZ outside your local calling area (local calling area calls are free). Also 5c a minute to call Australia, USA, UK, Some European countries, some Asian countries and 30c a minute to NZ mobile phones just to name a few more advantages. Besides that you can disconnect your telecom phone, I have estimated at this stage of the game that I would probably save around $20 a month on the POTS being disconnected and having naked bitstream which to me is nothing to be sneezed at.

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  #89672 5-Oct-2007 17:11
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kfella2000: At the moment there is 16 features I counted which are included in the $11.25 a month for the service. Some of these services like anonymous call rejection, call return and maybe one or two others are not available on telecoms POTS service. Besides that is the cheap calls like for example it is 5c a minute to anywhere in NZ outside your local calling area (local calling area calls are free). Also 5c a minute to call Australia, USA, UK, Some European countries, some Asian countries and 30c a minute to NZ mobile phones just to name a few more advantages. Besides that you can disconnect your telecom phone, I have estimated at this stage of the game that I would probably save around $20 a month on the POTS being disconnected and having naked bitstream which to me is nothing to be sneezed at.

Just a few points:
1. Not everyone currently chooses to pay for the bundled features, so they can't always be counted as savings
2. Many people are already paying 5c/minute in New Zealand, and have been doing so for a long time now using calling cards
3. Same applies for overseas calls, in particular Asian countries, the target market for a majority of calling cards that I have come across

I'm not trying to be negative here. I'm just pointing out that the savings are really that significant (speculating about pricing, of course), unless you are currently a heavy user of Telecom's added smartphone services, and don't already use calling cards.

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  #89879 6-Oct-2007 23:08
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We got our first 'naked' Telstra bill last week.  It was nice - just one charge - 10 gigs of broadband for $50.  With $11.25 for vfx, and stuff all for toll calls (cellphones are our main thing, they are only 30c per minute), we are saving heaps about $12 per month on rental, and a few dollars on calls.  (We are very light users!)  Only outstanding thing is an entry in the White Pages - WxC are working on that.  .... and I've finally retired the old Toshiba Pentium 75 notebook, and USR external voice modem, that have steadfastly taken phone messages for us over the past 8 years or so!

Competition is good.

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  #89884 6-Oct-2007 23:27
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SteveC: We got our first 'naked' Telstra bill last week. It was nice - just one charge - 10 gigs of broadband for $50. With $11.25 for vfx, and stuff all for toll calls (cellphones are our main thing, they are only 30c per minute), we are saving heaps about $12 per month on rental, and a few dollars on calls. (We are very light users!) Only outstanding thing is an entry in the White Pages - WxC are working on that. .... and I've finally retired the old Toshiba Pentium 75 notebook, and USR external voice modem, that have steadfastly taken phone messages for us over the past 8 years or so!

Competition is good.


How does one go about getting the naked ADSL with Telstra? or are you on cable?

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  #89901 7-Oct-2007 00:21
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Cable, sorry!  Having said that, I have had a (very rare in down this way) Telestra ADSL line at work in Porirua for about five years.  Excellent product!  Laughing  We also have one or two Analogue phones with them at work, but they put in a separate pair just for the ADSL.  Interesting.

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  #90069 8-Oct-2007 11:38
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Is there any news on an ETA for this service? I'm moving into a new place and would love to get set up with naked DSL + VFX from the start, in stead of setting up a telecom phone connection I'll probably ditch in a couple months :)

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