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#3255403 1-Jul-2024 21:56

Why not ask Full Flavour if they can assist you then? I think we all understand you're unhappy with the current offering/device, but you're probably either going to need to work with what you have, or look for a wireless provider that more closely meets your needs. They may not be able to do what you're wanting (or even cover your area) but no harm in trying.

While I accept that Maxine says that bridge mode on your current device is "coming", that could be next week, next month, next year...? While you're waiting, my suggestions would be (see above).

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#3255404 1-Jul-2024 21:58

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eh, it's worth asking. @myfullflavour whatcha got for our position (apartment in Te Aro?)

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#3255471 2-Jul-2024 11:52

For what it's worth, my UDM is currently behind another router and is exposed via DMZ (temporarily, while I'm between places). While I'm not using the site to site magic VPN, I do heavily use it as a Wireguard server and it's been working fine. The only minor issue is the config files it spits out has the private WAN IP as the server to connect to, but that's an easy fix.

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#3255561 2-Jul-2024 14:55

Side note, Tenancy Services says that your landlord has to approve the installation of fibre, unless:

installation would compromise the structural integrity, weathertightness or character of the property
installation would breach any regulations
the landlord intends to begin or takes material steps towards extensive renovations or repairs within 90 days of the tenant’s request, and installation would affect that work
the landlord applies to the Tenancy Tribunal and it decides that the landlord does not have to install fibre.
the landlord would have to pay for the installation.

I'm not sure if it makes a difference with it being public housing (nothing is mentioned), but I'd be forwarding them the link and asking for comment.

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#3255573 2-Jul-2024 16:13

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How would that work with a multi-floor apartment building? Isn't getting UFB into those kind of a bitch?

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#3255576 2-Jul-2024 16:30

I don't know; it will depend on the design and construction of the building. I've seen plenty of three-story medium-density stuff with UFB retrofitted. Higher-rise can be a bit more interesting but generally speaking, they go up a communications/power riser (where the power switchboard for each floor is usually), then go sideways in the corridors, probably in surface conduit on the ceiling.

If there's tiled drop ceilings everything is really easy, but that's unusual in public housing because it's fairly fragile and easy to tamper with.

If it's fancy with gib ceilings everywhere and no exposed conduit they might be able to refuse on the 'character' grounds but if it's bare concrete with conduit already feeding the lighting they will be laughed at.

I think the idea is that Chorus can tell you and the owner/landlord how they plan to do it, then the landlord has to say no to the plan with a good reason.

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#3255628 2-Jul-2024 16:56

I mean, it's totally possible that another tenant has already tried (possibly a few times) and they've legally said no for a valid reason, and they know the same will apply to you. It's also possible that they just don't want to deal with it and are trying to get you to go away.

Chorus's site lists this under 'category two' work:

Cabling in/around buildings
In some multi-dwelling units, we may need to install equipment or cabling using concealed areas like risers, false ceilings, within communications rooms, or attached to ceilings or walls in internal common areas like entryways or hallways.

Risers and comms rooms is classic for dealing with higher-rise buildings of more than a couple of stories.

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#3255647 2-Jul-2024 19:23

@SomeoneSomewhere

Assuming they listen to us at all. Our landlord really does not like explaining things to us, something about the blind, the transfem, or the ... we don't even know what.

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#3255653 2-Jul-2024 19:52

I wonder if the landlord was asked to contribute something towards the install then? That would probably put most of them off. Otherwise if it's free they've got nothing to lose by allowing an install to go ahead, surely?

Then again it may be that it's just too difficult to do (which can happen).

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#3255654 2-Jul-2024 19:53

the building has its own wifi with Mikrotik accesspoints and per-apartment SSIDs, but we trust that exactly none.

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#3255784 3-Jul-2024 00:37

ThatPrettyFreya:

@SomeoneSomewhere

Assuming they listen to us at all. Our landlord really does not like explaining things to us, something about the blind, the transfem, or the ... we don't even know what.

It looks like step one is to confirm with Chorus that they can install it (assuming your landlord gave permission), and that it would be free, or you would be willing to pay the cost.

Step two is to mail/email/give your landlord a copy of the Tenancy Services form letter, which basically says "it is illegal for a landlord to ignore this".

It might be worth creating a separate thread to discuss whether fibre is feasible, and ping the Chorus people. This thread also had the landlord/building manager claiming that Chorus wanted to charge them.

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#3255790 3-Jul-2024 06:48

quickymart:
ThatPrettyFreya:

this building doesn't have UFB available

An apartment without fibre available? Where is this? Or is it more a case of the installation isn't permitted by the body corporate or something?

Common in Wellington they will run a single ONT to the basement and then distribute
broadband as part of their lease agreements at absurd rates.

On top of that prohibit the installation of ONTs anywhere else, and because they are providing “fibre internet access” it side steps the tenancy act.

With the rental shortage in Wellington its another way for landlords to make more money.

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#3255813 3-Jul-2024 09:05

@nztim

They're not charging for it in this case, but they do call it "the wifi", in the way of, like, "this is intended for a 70-year-old's TV and laptop and that's it", very overly simplified and such

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#3256100 3-Jul-2024 21:01

Sounds like it might be how Tim's describing it then, ie, one ONT installed for the entire building and they "wifi it out" from there, which I've also heard of happening before.

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#3256178 4-Jul-2024 09:29

quickymart:

Sounds like it might be how Tim's describing it then, ie, one ONT installed for the entire building and they "wifi it out" from there, which I've also heard of happening before.

Sounds like it.

It means there is Fibre to the building.

Getting it to an individual apartment would require cabling from the ETP to the apartment. Not sure how easy that is. Does sound like the Landlord can't be a**ed.

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