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kyhwana2
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  #389973 9-Oct-2010 20:12
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SamF: Hmm, now I'm just worried that iSky will kill all the cabinet to ISP back-haul bandwidth!

Yeah, it's pretty crap here in Hamilton central too (street over from CBD)
woo 32kbit CIR.



siimo2005
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  #390137 10-Oct-2010 13:07
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Mine has already been killed. Living in oversubscribed botany area in Auckland.  I get awesome speeds off peak like at 7am in the morning and Max out my line.   But in the evening when I get home from work at 6pm through to midnight I struggle to get good speeds *even* nationally or locally to xnet servers.  Xnet speedtest drops to half a meg to a meg during this time.  Get 6Meg+ during off peak.  

kyhwana2
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  #390140 10-Oct-2010 13:14
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siimo2005: Mine has already been killed. Living in oversubscribed botany area in Auckland.

Yeah, I can only get ~200KB/s during peak and 1.6MB (that's bytes, yes) off peak. Would be nice if that would get fixed but probably isn't do able, I guess. AH well.
Waiting to see if lightwire wire up my apartment! (Then will dual home my Cisco 877 with Xnet/Lightwire, woo)



PANiCnz
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  #390194 10-Oct-2010 17:09
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kyhwana2:
siimo2005: Mine has already been killed. Living in oversubscribed botany area in Auckland.

Yeah, I can only get ~200KB/s during peak and 1.6MB (that's bytes, yes) off peak. Would be nice if that would get fixed but probably isn't do able, I guess. AH well.
Waiting to see if lightwire wire up my apartment! (Then will dual home my Cisco 877 with Xnet/Lightwire, woo)


Don't get your hopes up for lightwire, I used them when I was studying at University and they were terrible!!! If you think you have it bad on xnet wait until you're on lightwire, not great value either.

Admittiably this was a year or two ago when they first rolled out their network, but even sitting directly under the AP speeds were terrible.

kyhwana2
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  #390196 10-Oct-2010 17:22
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PANiCnz:
kyhwana2:
siimo2005: Mine has already been killed. Living in oversubscribed botany area in Auckland.

Yeah, I can only get ~200KB/s during peak and 1.6MB (that's bytes, yes) off peak. Would be nice if that would get fixed but probably isn't do able, I guess. AH well.
Waiting to see if lightwire wire up my apartment! (Then will dual home my Cisco 877 with Xnet/Lightwire, woo)


Don't get your hopes up for lightwire, I used them when I was studying at University and they were terrible!!!


Hmm, this would be wired via ethernet. But eh, data is still expensive compared to xnet, so it'd probably only be as a backup when xnet goes down ;)

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  #392803 17-Oct-2010 12:10
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Hmm, this would be wired via ethernet. But eh, data is still expensive compared to xnet, so it'd probably only be as a backup when xnet goes down ;)

xNet always goes down, they used to give free 56k (dial-up) incase they went down... Then they just stop it working without telling you, so no backup. They did the same thing about the DNS servers, they changed the primary one without telling anyone. Same with capping, they cap everyone @ 256kbit when xNet reaches their monthly max. And also tolerating, they never said they would tolerate users, but they do massively now.

Which is why i'm moving to a much faster, cheaper deal at Telstra.

kyhwana2
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  #392807 17-Oct-2010 12:30
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Krisando:
Hmm, this would be wired via ethernet. But eh, data is still expensive compared to xnet, so it'd probably only be as a backup when xnet goes down ;)

xNet always goes down, they used to give free 56k (dial-up) incase they went down... Then they just stop it working without telling you, so no backup. They did the same thing about the DNS servers, they changed the primary one without telling anyone. Same with capping, they cap everyone @ 256kbit when xNet reaches their monthly max. And also tolerating, they never said they would tolerate users, but they do massively now.

Which is why i'm moving to a much faster, cheaper deal at Telstra.


Er what?
They don't cap everyone @256kbit at all..
And what does "when xnet reaches their monthly max" even mean? ISPs don't buy data, they buy in mbit/s and use caps as a way of stretching that over all their users.

 
 
 

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  #392815 17-Oct-2010 12:48
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kyhwana2:
Krisando:
Hmm, this would be wired via ethernet. But eh, data is still expensive compared to xnet, so it'd probably only be as a backup when xnet goes down ;)

xNet always goes down, they used to give free 56k (dial-up) incase they went down... Then they just stop it working without telling you, so no backup. They did the same thing about the DNS servers, they changed the primary one without telling anyone. Same with capping, they cap everyone @ 256kbit when xNet reaches their monthly max. And also tolerating, they never said they would tolerate users, but they do massively now.

Which is why i'm moving to a much faster, cheaper deal at Telstra.


Er what?
They don't cap everyone @256kbit at all..
And what does "when xnet reaches their monthly max" even mean? ISPs don't buy data, they buy in mbit/s and use caps as a way of stretching that over all their users.


Unfortunately, they DO seem to do a global 256kbit/s international cap on SINGLE connections. They seem to do it at peak times (Not monthly).
This isn't very noticeable if using bittorrent, or other p2p, or a download manager. However it becomes VERY noticeable when trying to download from sources that do not allow multiple connections, and also when trying to stream video.

Basically, I can almost guarantee (at least on my connection anyway) that after a certain time in the evening, downloading using my browser will not break ~30KByte/s. During the day I can easily get 600+ KByte/s download speeds from the same server.

 

RunningMan
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  #392819 17-Oct-2010 12:53
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Krisando:
xNet always goes down,

Not in my experiance - they've gone down when there has been some significant outages that affect most/all other ISPs at the same time, but certainly not always.

Krisando: And also tolerating, they never said they would tolerate users, but they do massively now.


What do you mean by tolerate?

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  #393634 19-Oct-2010 15:19
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I think he probably means throttle.

Could be a good (anti) marketing slogan though - "We won't tolerate users, we'll throttle them!" ;-)

RunningMan
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  #393641 19-Oct-2010 15:36
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Dratsab: I think he probably means throttle.


Ahh, of course - have to say I was scratching my head with that one Wink

I'd hope that most companies tolerate their customers.

gizmoguy
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  #395718 26-Oct-2010 10:20
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Just got moved onto the clothed FS/FS Xnet plan today from river and getting some better speeds.

Just wondering if these sync rates sound right for ADSL2+:

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]:  924 / 15.486

Considering we're on a cabinet with the following stats reported by my ADSL2+ router:

Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]:  12,5 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]:  3,0 / 7,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]:  14,0 / 12,0
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):  0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):  0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):  0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):  40 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down):  0 / 115
CRC Errors (Up/Down):  0 / 0
HEC Errors (Up/Down):  0 / 0

Should I be syncing any faster or is this standard for ADSL2+?

pistolpower
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  #395876 26-Oct-2010 16:20
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gizmoguy: Just got moved onto the clothed FS/FS Xnet plan today from river and getting some better speeds.

Just wondering if these sync rates sound right for ADSL2+:

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]:  924 / 15.486

Considering we're on a cabinet with the following stats reported by my ADSL2+ router:

Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]:  12,5 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]:  3,0 / 7,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]:  14,0 / 12,0
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote):  0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote):  0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote):  0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote):  40 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down):  0 / 115
CRC Errors (Up/Down):  0 / 0
HEC Errors (Up/Down):  0 / 0

Should I be syncing any faster or is this standard for ADSL2+?


Lol The FEC errors are bad. Also That is a bad synch rate. But Your'e line attenuation should give you a better synch speed than that. Something is broken.

gizmoguy
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  #395897 26-Oct-2010 16:44
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pistolpower: Lol The FEC errors are bad. Also That is a bad synch rate. But Your'e line attenuation should give you a better synch speed than that. Something is broken.


Yeah the phone line is like 20 years old but I would suspect with the now much lower attenuation (from being moved from exchange to cabinet) we should see a much bigger increase in the sync rate and performance. Should I get in contact with xnet support?

grudge
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  #396405 27-Oct-2010 17:40
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I wouldn't exactly call 15mbit sync a 'bad synch rate', it looks fine to me tbh

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