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#116708 7-May-2013 16:38
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Working with a new customer that is moving their services over to our UFB product.

I'm in a bit of shock - they've been paying Vodafone for who knows how long - $276 a year for a Static IP.

Is this standard Vodafone pricing?????

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  #813043 7-May-2013 16:59
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I think that is correct, but vodafone will also tell you that aalong with the static ip address you also get 10(?) more email addresses and some more storage on their homepage server.

I've been wanting a static ip address, just that, no extra email addresses or homepage storage but vodafone won't do that, it's an all or nothing deal

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  #813061 7-May-2013 17:09
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I agree with the general tone that customers should always keep looking at offers to keep in touch with the value they're getting.

As for static IP addresses, it's just expensive in terms of time and resources to manage this stuff and some providers would prefer not to be in that business, so if required to provide the service they just charge more.

It's an interesting issue though, IPv4 space is getting more and more expensive.





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  #813063 7-May-2013 17:11
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DonGould: I agree with the general tone that customers should always keep looking at offers to keep in touch with the value they're getting.

As for static IP addresses, it's just expensive in terms of time and resources to manage this stuff and some providers would prefer not to be in that business, so if required to provide the service they just charge more.

It's an interesting issue though, IPv4 space is getting more and more expensive.



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  #813066 7-May-2013 17:13
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DonGould: It's an interesting issue though, IPv4 space is getting more and more expensive.


They aren't cheap - in the process of acquiring a /22 for $US15k.

I'd be sitting in raro slurping on something nice is I could flick them off at $276 / year though ;)

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  #813098 7-May-2013 17:56
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I paid $20+GST a month for static IP from EOL

The only reason I went to them is because they are the first company that can offer UFB in Tauranga. No doubt I'll kiss them goodbye once there are others that can offer UFB here





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  #813116 7-May-2013 18:29
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As the IPv4 space becomes more limited, ISPs are looking to things like CGNAT to maximise their allocations. I suspect that static IPv4 addresses are going to get more and more expensive over the next few years.

You may even be paying for a unique, dynamic IP with some providers before long.




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  #813118 7-May-2013 18:32
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myfullflavour: Working with a new customer that is moving their services over to our UFB product.

I'm in a bit of shock - they've been paying Vodafone for who knows how long - $276 a year for a Static IP.

Is this standard Vodafone pricing?????


Jeez, telecom force you to get a static ip. 

Maybe that is the answer? 

 
 
 
 


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  #813445 8-May-2013 07:59
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why dont providers just hurry up and get IPV6 then?





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  #813475 8-May-2013 08:37
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I'd be sitting in raro slurping on something nice is I could flick them off at $276 / year though ;)


You would need some way of managing them out of Raro that is not dependent on an internet connection. Maybe California would be better.... :-)




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  #813481 8-May-2013 08:51
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That's odd. I'm on the Vodafone business plan that gives you 1TB of data for daytime use (for $20/month no less) and that comes with a static IP address as standard. No charge.

Curious.

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  #813491 8-May-2013 09:04
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surfisup1000:
Jeez, telecom force you to get a static ip. 

Maybe that is the answer? 


I don't think that's quite the same - while they're "sticky" through modem reboots\resyncs\etc I think they're still dynamic, in other words they're not guaranteed to stay the same over long periods.




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  #813497 8-May-2013 09:11
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I make use of dyndns.org. If you router supports it its pretty easy to setup.

Its solved my problem of ever requiring a static IP address. But then Im not running a business

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PaulBrislen: That's odd. I'm on the Vodafone business plan that gives you 1TB of data for daytime use (for $20/month no less) and that comes with a static IP address as standard. No charge.

Curious.


They might be on a legacy plan then?

hamish225: why dont providers just hurry up and get IPV6 then?


You're not going to see providers with just IPv6 anytime soon. What is likely to appear is a service identical or similar to DS-Lite where customers get a unique range of IPv6 addresses and for IPv4 services they share an address with a bunch of other users.

So for the IPv4, NAT is done at the ISP.

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  #814624 9-May-2013 16:16
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Customers on Business plans with Vodafone get a free static IP address bundled with their services, but they need to call us to activate it for them. Only Residential customers need to pay the additional $20-odd a month to get a static IP. Just thought I'd clarify.




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  #814750 9-May-2013 19:49
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myfullflavour:
PaulBrislen: That's odd. I'm on the Vodafone business plan that gives you 1TB of data for daytime use (for $20/month no less) and that comes with a static IP address as standard. No charge.

Curious.


They might be on a legacy plan then?

hamish225: why dont providers just hurry up and get IPV6 then?


You're not going to see providers with just IPv6 anytime soon. What is likely to appear is a service identical or similar to DS-Lite where customers get a unique range of IPv6 addresses and for IPv4 services they share an address with a bunch of other users.

So for the IPv4, NAT is done at the ISP.


oh i see, why would a residential customer need more than one ipv6 address though?





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