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Topic # 164308 4-Feb-2015 22:50
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Considering the massive amount of data that each Speedtest.net (Ookla) uses (especially on 4G) wouldn't it be nice if we could actually run the odd test to check how insanely fast the network is without wiping our usage in 5 seconds. Vodafone doesn't offer any sort of app to measure data usage (on mobile at least).

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  Reply # 1231436 4-Feb-2015 23:04
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Mobile data is expensive for a reason, to stop People using too much of it. Imagine how congested networks would be if speed test was unmetered and every cell site had a bunch of geeks constantly running speedtest to splooge over how fast lte is.

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  Reply # 1231438 4-Feb-2015 23:10
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Wipe out my data in 5s, how do I get on that speed 5G, 6G?



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  Reply # 1231440 4-Feb-2015 23:15
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Obviously, but considering that it is pretty much standard everywhere else in the world and the carriers have no trouble with it, it can't be a massive problem. Vodafone could offer some sort of limited (non-metered) function within their app so they could keep a cap on it. Honestly, I think once people get over it it will be barely used but you can't actually check how fast 4G. Vodafone could have a massive social media win on their hands with people sharing photos and stuff of their fast speeds, like they do in the states.



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  Reply # 1231442 4-Feb-2015 23:21
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nathan: Wipe out my data in 5s, how do I get on that speed 5G, 6G?


Well, if you're on a 500mb plan with about 250mb left, the 150Mbps on CAT 4 can wipe it up in no time.

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  Reply # 1231445 4-Feb-2015 23:35
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Zreh: Obviously, but considering that it is pretty much standard everywhere else in the world and the carriers have no trouble with it, it can't be a massive problem. Vodafone could offer some sort of limited (non-metered) function within their app so they could keep a cap on it. Honestly, I think once people get over it it will be barely used but you can't actually check how fast 4G. Vodafone could have a massive social media win on their hands with people sharing photos and stuff of their fast speeds, like they do in the states.


consider what is standard in the rest of the world?
most countries have data caps on mobile plans, and don't unmeter speedtest.
 the carriers that have unlimited data typically have speeds that are absolutely terrible (probably because they have people running speedtest all the time!)

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  Reply # 1231446 4-Feb-2015 23:38
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What's the ROI?

any businesses needs to weigh up the upside of doing something like that vs. Status quo

Personally I would love to have unmetered speed test, but then I actually don't really care when it comes down to it. Probably Voda know this too, the amount of revenue generated from new customers switching because of it =

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  Reply # 1231448 4-Feb-2015 23:40
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Zreh:
nathan: Wipe out my data in 5s, how do I get on that speed 5G, 6G?


Well, if you're on a 500mb plan with about 250mb left, the 150Mbps on CAT 4 can wipe it up in no time.


They should default plans with pitiful data allowances like that to 2 or 2.5G

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  Reply # 1231450 4-Feb-2015 23:42
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Because you don't need to speedtest all the time?
Your phone is either loading things fast or its loading them slow. If its slow, a whole bunch of people speedtesting is just going to make it even more slow.



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Reply # 1231451 4-Feb-2015 23:43
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I wish! There's a limit to Vodafone's generosity, especially on the lower tiered 19/29/39 plans. Though, the last two aren't too bad. 



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  Reply # 1231453 4-Feb-2015 23:45
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I may have jumped the gun on "most networks" but I very much doubt that enabling it is going to set back Vodafone's operational capacity in any significant way, unlike p2p or 4k streaming.



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  Reply # 1231454 4-Feb-2015 23:48
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nathan: What's the ROI?

any businesses needs to weigh up the upside of doing something like that vs. Status quo

Personally I would love to have unmetered speed test, but then I actually don't really care when it comes down to it. Probably Voda know this too, the amount of revenue generated from new customers switching because of it =

 

 

 

Yeah, when T-Mo did it there was a whole lot of fanfare about net neutrality too, it can be a prickly subject (un-metering certain apps/content) so I doubt Vodafone (of all the telcos over here) would do it.

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  Reply # 1231459 5-Feb-2015 00:33
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Are you having a laugh or actually serious?...

Saying speedtest.net should be zero rated because 'it would be nice to run a few tests' is like saying YouTube should be zero rated becaue 'it would be nice to watch a few 1080p videos'.

There is ZERO reason to run a speedtest.net test on 4G. Doing it on 4G is purely for use to show your mates and say how good yours is compared to theirs. I seriously can't think of I single reason why I would need to run a speedtest on a 4G connection in a business or personal enviroment.



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  Reply # 1231462 5-Feb-2015 02:18
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chevrolux: Are you having a laugh or actually serious?...

Saying speedtest.net should be zero rated because 'it would be nice to run a few tests' is like saying YouTube should be zero rated becaue 'it would be nice to watch a few 1080p videos'.

There is ZERO reason to run a speedtest.net test on 4G. Doing it on 4G is purely for use to show your mates and say how good yours is compared to theirs. I seriously can't think of I single reason why I would need to run a speedtest on a 4G connection in a business or personal enviroment.

 


Don't you think comparing speeds is one of the main reasons that people will switch from one carrier to another? I just think it would improve transparency around 4G/H+ speed. Vodafone could potentially offer it through their app, thus being able to lock it down to a reasonable degree (once a week/month). It's not a terrible idea unless you take the NN angle.

 

 

 

I think the most important thing is that our data caps especially at 19/29 are just a bit too low (compared to the speed) if they can be hammered by a speed test.

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  Reply # 1231466 5-Feb-2015 06:17
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I don't think a business case would stack up for this sort of thing. Nice to have, maybe (how many times a day would you want to run a speedtest?), necessary? No.

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  Reply # 1231467 5-Feb-2015 06:22
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Zreh:
Don't you think comparing speeds is one of the main reasons that people will switch from one carrier to another?



Nope. Speed wouldn't factor into 99% of people's reasons for switching carriers.

Much like fixed line networks running speedtest tells me absolutely nothing about the overall quality of a fixed line or mobile network. Data setup speeds and retainability are far more important in the real world, and a great end user QoE is far, far, far more important that simply getting a high speedtest result.

If anything data to speedtest.net should be rated at 10x other traffic to stop people saturating channel elements for no real reason.

I'd love beer to be zero rated in this world and can't see why it's not..







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